2/27/2005
A visit with Terri Schiavo

Terri “collapsed” under strange circumstances when she was only 26 years old.
This was written back in 2004, not long ago, around Christmastime, by Attorney Barbara Weller. You can see it here. This is a personal accounting of a visit with Terri Schiavo, not from a legal point of view, but the view of a woman; a mother, a grandmother. It could have been written in her diary.
Take a look at these videos,and watch this astonishing 5 minute video and come with me and visit Terri Schiavo with Barbara.
This past Christmas Eve day, 2004, I went to visit Terri Schiavo with her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, her sister, her niece, and Attorney David Gibbs III. The visit took place at the Woodside Hospice for about 45 minutes just before noon.
Terri has been in hospice for 5 years, since April of 2000. (Which is against the law. Schiavo’s decision to hold Terri at Hospice after it was clear that she was not “terminal” within Medicare guidelines was an improper use of the ward’s assets. In order to receive federal payment for hospice care, the facility must obtain a certification from the attending physician within two calendar days of initial admission that the patient’s “prognosis is for a life expectancy of 6 months or less if the terminal illness runs its normal course.” 42 C.F.R. § 418.22 (2001) Terri has been in Hospice 5 years, since April of 2000.)
When I knew I was going to visit Terri with her parents, I had no idea what to expect. I was prepared for the possibility that the Schindlers love their daughter and sister so much that they might imagine behaviors by Terri that aren’t actually evident to others. The media and Mr. Schiavo clearly give the impression that Terri is in a coma or comatose state and engages only in non-purposeful and reflexive movements and responses. I am a mother and a grandmother, as well as one of the Schindlers’ attorneys, and I could understand how parents might imagine behavior and purposeful activity that is not really there. I was prepared to be as objective as I could be during this visit and not to be disappointed at anything I saw or experienced.
I can see if I were in this predicament, how I would brace myself for what was to come; the media hasn’t painted a very good picture of her condition, many people consider her to be brain dead.
I was truly surprised at what I saw from the moment we entered the little room where Terri is confined. The room is a little wider than the width of two single beds and about as long as the average bedroom, with plenty of room for us to stand at the foot of her bed. Terri is on the first floor and there is a lovely view to the outside grounds of the facility. The room is entered by a short hallway, however, and there is no way for Terri to see out into the hallway or for anyone in the hallway to observe Terri.

If this woman is “on the brink of death” as the media reports, it seems strange to me that she is not somewhere where the staff can see her. I suppose keeping her “comfortable in her last hours” isn’t really a concern, considering she went there to die and has lingered for 5 more years while Michael uses the money for her rehabilitation in the fight to exterminate her.
From the moment we entered the room, my impression was that Terri was very purposeful and interactive and she seemed very curious about the presence of obvious strangers in her room. Terri was not in bed, but was in her chair, which has a lounge chair appearance and elevates her head at about a 30-degree angle. She was dressed and washed, her hair combed, and she was covered with a holiday blanket. There were no tubes of any kind attached to her body. She was completely free of any restraints that would have indicated any type of artificial life support. Not even her feeding tube was attached and functioning when we entered, as she is not fed 24 hours a day.
The thing that surprised me the most about Terri as I took my turn to greet her by the side of her chair was how beautiful she is. I would have expected to see someone with a sallow and gray complexion and a sick looking countenance. Instead, I saw a very pretty woman with a peaches and cream complexion and a lovely smile, which she even politely extended to me as I introduced myself to her. I was amazed that someone who had not been outside for so many years and who received such minimal health care could look so beautiful. She appeared to have an inner light radiating from her face. I was truly taken aback by her beauty, particularly under the adverse circumstances in which she has found herself for so many years.
She has been in hospice for 5 long years, and hasn’t had fresh air or been outside in that time. Truly remarkable.
Terri’s parents, sister, and niece went immediately to greet Terri when we entered the room and stood in turn directly beside her head, stroking her face, kissing her and talking quietly with her. When she heard their voices, and particularly her mother’s voice, Terri instantly turned her head towards them and smiled. Terri established eye contact with her family, particularly with her mother, who spent the most time with her during our visit. It was obvious that she recognized the voices in the room with the exception of one. Although her mother was talking to her at the time, she obviously had heard a new voice and exhibited a curious demeanor. Attorney Gibbs was having a conversation near the door with Terri’s sister. His voice is very deep and resonant and Terri obviously picked it up. Her eyes widened as if to say, “What’s that new sound I hear?” She scanned the room with her eyes, even turning her head in his direction, until she found Attorney Gibbs and the location of the new voice and her eyes rested momentarily in his direction. She then returned to interacting with her mother.
When her mother was close to her, Terri’s whole face lit up. She smiled. She looked directly at her mother and she made all sorts of happy sounds. When her mother talked to her, Terri was quiet and obviously listening. When she stopped, Terri started vocalizing. The vocalizations seemed to be a pattern, not merely random or reflexive at all. There is definitely a pattern of Terri having a conversation with her mother as best she can manage. Initially, she used the vocalization of “uh’uh” but without seeming to mean it as a way of saying “no”, just as a repeated speech pattern. She then began to make purposeful grunts in response to her mother’s conversation. She made the same sorts of sound with her father and sister, but not to the same extent or as delightedly as with her mother. She made no verbal response to her niece or to Attorney Gibbs and myself, but she did appear to pay attention to our words to her.
The whole experience was rather moving. Terri definitely has a personality. Her whole demeanor definitely changes when her mother speaks with her. She lights up and appears to be delighted at the interaction. She has an entirely different reaction to her father who jokes with her and has several standing jokes that he uses when he enters and exits her presence. She appears to merely “tolerate” her father, as a child does when she says “stop” but really means, “this is fun.” When her father greets her, he always does the same thing. He says, “here comes the hug” and hugs her. He then says, “you know what’s coming next—the kiss.” Her father has a scratchy mustache and both times when he went through this little joke routine with her, she laughed in a way she did not do with anyone else. When her father is ready to plant the kiss on her cheek, she immediately makes a face her family calls the “lemon face.” She puckers her lips, screws up her whole face, and turns away from him, as if making ready for the scratchy assault on her cheek that she knows is coming. She did the exact same thing both times that her father initiated this little routine joke between the two of them.
This sounds like a woman who is responsive, not someone who is “brain dead” or a “houseplant”. I can imagine this, picture, can’t you? Making a face when a guy with a scratchy face was about to rub his face on yours? I’ve seen children do this with their dads, I did it when I was young and my dad grew a beard. When my dad came back from 2 weeks camping in Canada with my brother, I saw my mother make that face in response to his nuzzling hugs.
The interactions with her family and our appearance in her room appeared to require some effort and exertion from Terri. From time to time, she would close her eyes as if to rest. This happened primarily when no one was paying particular attention to her, but we were talking among ourselves. After a few minutes or when one of the visitors approached her and started to talk directly to her again, Terri would open her eyes and begin her grunting sounds again in response to their conversations. Although I approached her, leaned close and stroked her arms and spoke to her, she did not verbally respond to me.
Terri’s hands are curled up around little soft cylinders that help her not to injure herself. I understand that these contractures are likely very painful, although there was a time when Terri was receiving simple motion therapy when her hands and arms relaxed and were no longer as constricted. When the therapy was discontinued by order of her guardian and the court, the contractures returned. These contractures would apparently be avoidable if Terri were given the simple range of motion therapy she previously received. It is very sad to observe firsthand these conditions that make her life more difficult, but that would be correctable with little effort.
It’s a travesty that this woman has been refused treatment and care that is required by law for the sake of her husband’s sick killing agenda.
When we were preparing to leave, the interactions with Terri changed. First, she went through the joke routine with her father and the “lemon face.” When her niece said goodbye to her, Terri did not react. Nor did she react to me or to Attorney Gibbs when we said our goodbyes to her. When her sister went to her to say goodbye, Terri’s verbalizations changed dramatically. Instead of the happy grunting and “uh uh” sounds she had been making throughout the visit, her verbalizations at these goodbyes changed to a very low and different sound that appeared to come from deep in her throat and was almost like a growl. She first made the sound when her sister said goodbye and then, amazingly to me, she made exactly the same sound when her mother said goodbye to her. It seemed Terri was visibly upset that they were leaving. She almost appeared to be trying to cling to them, although this impression came only from her changed facial expression and sounds, since her hands cannot move. It appeared like she did not want to be alone and knew they were leaving. It was definitely apparent in the short time I was there that her emotions changed—it was apparent when she was happy and enjoying herself, when she was amused, when she was resting from her exertion to communicate, and when she was sad at her guests leaving. It was readily apparent and surprising that her mood changed so often in a short 45-minute visit.
I was pleasantly surprised to observe Terri’s purposeful and varied behaviors with the various members of her family and with Attorney Gibbs and myself. I never imagined Terri would be so active, curious, and purposeful. She watched people intently, obviously was attempting to communicate with each one in various ways and with various facial expressions and sounds. She was definitely not in a coma, not even close. This visit certainly shed more light for me on why the Schindlers are fighting so hard to protect her, to get her medical care and rehabilitative assistance, and to spend all they have to protect her life.
I realize that Terri has good days and bad days. There are obviously days when she does not interact with her family, as they had previously told us. There are also apparently days when Terri is even more interactive and responsive to them than she was on the day I visited. Since this visit I am more convinced than ever that the Schindlers are not just parents who refuse to let go of their daughter. There really is a lot going on with their daughter and potentially, it seemed obvious to me, Terri could improve even more with appropriate care and 24 hour a day love that can only come from a dedicated family. As I watched her, my foremost thought was that on the next day, Christmas, Terri should not have been confined to her small room in a hospice center, nice as that room was, but that she should have been gathered around the Christmas dinner table enjoying the holiday with her family.
I hope that with all our efforts, that will happen for her this Christmas. There is no doubt in my mind that many laws have been broken as you can see here and here.
MEDIA: Call the Gibbs Law Firm Media Director, Mr. Keith Brickell, at O:727-399-8300 or C:727-458-4824 to arrange an interview with Attorney David Gibbs III or Attorney Barbara Weller. He can be reached by email: kbrickell@gibbsfirm.com.
The Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation is the official organization responsible for speaking on behalf of the Schindler family. For more information and background on the case, visit the foundation’s website at www.terrisfight.org.
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February 28th, 2005 at 9:48 am
I think this matter is in God’s hands now. After all he is the supreme being who has say over whether or not Terri should continue her life here on earth. All we can do now is pray for her and for her family. The power of prayer is much greater than any law or lawmaker.
February 28th, 2005 at 1:20 pm
Karen, while I agree with your statement, it doesn’t go far enough. Prayer certainly works miracles, but God also wants us to put feet to our prayers. “Don’t be so heavenly minded that you’re no earthly good.”
February 28th, 2005 at 1:37 pm
Romeocat…great quote…karen?
WE are God’s hands.
It is US, His followers, His believers, His flock….His servants, that must do his bidding.
It is US that must ACT here, in His Holy Name, to secure His Blessed Gift of Life for Terri.
God has Ordained Freedom upon ALL of His people, Freedom to Live, and no matter by what name they may give Him, HE loves us equally, and by His Divine Providence have we been CHOSEN to take up this fight for Terri’s life.
Surely it is His Hand that guides us through each day, leading us in the most imperceptible ways to do His work.
I daresay if Terris’ curse has been brought to your attention then that is the hand of Almighty God, leading you into the thick of the battle, telling You, Karen, “Go and Join the Fight for the most helpless of My Beloved Children.”
Surely Karen you can hear God right now, telling you to scream it from the rooftops, yell until you are hoarse and your throat is cracked and bleeding.
Pray, Karen. Most definitly Pray, but you Must Also ACT!!!!!
Send emails. Send Letters. Make Phone calls. Enlist your church.
WE ARE FIGHTING THE MOST VILE FORM OF EVIL HERE FOLKS…….PRAYER IS THE START……ACTION MUST FOLLOW!!!!!
HALLELUJAH AND AMEN!!!!!
February 28th, 2005 at 1:56 pm
James 2:14-26 FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD
You must follow your faith with action, and that’s what we’re told to do by the Lord our God. We must do the legwork, prayer alone will not do it.
It is all about the Sanctity of Life The source of the “sanctity of life” concept is in the law given to Noah: “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man” (Genesis 9:6). This Scripture is more than a prohibition on the taking of innocent life; it reveals the reason that murder is wrong. Created by God (for His purpose), we are stewards, not owners, of the lives that God has given. Life is God’s gift, and its end is to be determined by His sovereignty: “There is no god besides me. I put to death and I bring to life” (Deuteronomy 32:39).
This means that the Christian is obligated to use ordinary medical means to promote health. That is, Christians have a moral duty to accept medical treatment if it is available and effective and it is not a burden out of proportion to the anticipated benefit. For example, refusing tube feeding because of a spinal cord injury would be tantamount to suicide and a rejection of the responsibility we have to be stewards of our lives. Conversely, refusing a risky, difficult-to-endure cancer treatment that has a limited chance of working is a moral option. Perhaps the most frequent application of this option is the “do not resuscitate” order: It is morally permissible to refuse (in advance) attempts to “restart” your heart when you are in the final stage of a terminal illness.
Terri is not terminal. (Even though her husband has done everything in his power to kill her) Her husband still wants her dead, and Judge Greer is sanctioning it. Don’t you see something wrong with that? I believe everyone who believes in the sanctity of life must help Terri; she cannot help herself. We are standing to protect and help the innocent, which is what Jesus taught.
February 28th, 2005 at 2:02 pm
To echo what romeocat said, God in fact wants us to come to him prayer but God does not merely answer prayers that are not in accordance with his will. God put us here to serve Him and His will. We are to act in Faith and give thanks and Glory to God for everything.
We cannot simply pray that Terri be allowed to continue living because then we are invoking our own prejudice and selfish want of how we would like to see things unfold. We must pray however, that God’s will be done and that may be used as an instrument of carrying out His will. Why would He call us to do anything in Faith if our works were in vain?
This is evident several times in the Bible but the most famous would be story of Moses.
God had decided to set His people free and being the all powerful God that He is He could have dropped the chains destroyed the Egyptians with plague. But God always acts deeper than the surface. He called Moses to carry out His will, thus validating the power of the Almighty to the eyes of the non-believers.
Is it God’s will to save Terri? Only God knows, but I think that he uses cases like this for his followers to strengthen and voice out that all life is precious. And we cannot do that without acting and speaking in faith for what is right. The bible says that faith without action is worthless.
God could have Terri walking tomorrow with or without our prayers or our actions, but God wants us to be beacons of Faith thereby, validating his Power through the faith of His followers.
February 28th, 2005 at 2:57 pm
I was going to add something here, but I feel rather small after Kender’s comments. I will just add an “Amen.”
February 28th, 2005 at 3:09 pm
Amen indeed; and just let me add that the issue not solely in God’s hands unless/until Terri is dead. In the meantime, as mentioned previously, it is our duty to do the right thing (while continuing to pray).
/TJ
February 28th, 2005 at 3:28 pm
Romeo-cat seems to have summed it up just right IMHO. I am not a Christian so this maybe a stretch for Karen…but my prayers in addition to the prayers for Terri and her family are prayers for myself and the many others to continue to have the strength and courage to have the facts come out and reprehensible people be held accountable on this earth…
March 1st, 2005 at 8:06 am
I don’t think it could be worded anymore simple than Kender said. We are God’s hands. God works through us. Inspires our hearts.
My son has a superhero bedroom. One of the framed posters is Spiderman. It has an inspirational quote, which I think applies here:
The world is a dangerous place. Not so much because of those who do evil, but because of those who stand by and do nothing.
The story of the good samaritan comes to mind too. The legislative branch has the power to put the check on the judicial branch. This power is too often not used. Start makin contact people. If this comes down to her death, you can at least say that you didn’t stand by and watch it without putting out some kind of effort.
Prayer is powerful, I won’t deny that…so pray for power, strength, and opportunity to arise…so that you can do God’s work. We are the body of Christ.
Some will be at the judgment, and God will say welcome, you fed me when I was hungry, clothed me when I was naked, visited me when I was in prison, cared for me when I was sick. They will say, When did we do these things? And God says…
Whenever you did these things unto your fellow man, you did them unto me.
The same goes vice-versa. Whatever you did not do unto your fellow man, you did not do unto God.