5/30/2005
Yamin Zakaria boasts win over Ali Sina like a clucking rooster
Read the debate here. I particularly like this page.
Yamin Zakaria is a typical Arab male crowing like a rooster, looking down his nose at the dhimmi unbelievers who he thinks should pay the jizah tax, or die. Only –we (both Ali and I) live in societies where Islam is not prevalent. Islam and sharia law are not the rule here. Yamin Zakria is not to be confused with Fareed Zakaria, who works for Newsweek. Yamin lives in London, England, which I’m sure will get the Rotty Pup’s hackles up.
Barbara Stock is, apparently, Zakaria’s nemesis, so this has been very interesting to watch. I was pulled into the fray simply because I’m aware of the debate that’s been going on between Zakaria and Ali Sina, and because Zakaria came here exposing himself as a pompous ass. Apparently, I am linked now with Answers.com regarding my friend, Ali Sina, who owns Faithfreedom.org. I, too, have received death threats–both on this website and through email. And I, too, prefer to remain anonymous. That is the beauty of the blogosphere, we have the freedom to do just that. I need elbow room to be able to talk about what I believe, without fear of reprisals anywhere. And these days it is becoming more and more clear that Christians in general are being persecuted more and more each day, just for being who they are. The other point is–terrorists do not want the truth about Islam exposed. Such a strange culture it is; taking over the world by conquest, lying, and killing your opponents. Reminds me of communism, but that’s why leftists have joined together with Islamists to destroy America.
I’d like to refer you to this link where Barbara takes on Zakaria. Zakaria can’t help himself; he’s a middleastern man who doesn’t think much of women, and that’s according to their culture and the Koran. Women are but vessels for male heirs and that’s about it. They should be beaten by their husbands, and they should keep themselves covered and quiet. They’ve been kept out of all kinds of things that Western women take for granted–for example, voting, or going out in public with a short-sleeved shirt or letting the wind blow through your hair. And a young single woman shouldn’t be alone with a man, because the implications will be that she has had sex with him. Regardless if that’s true or not; and she could be killed by her family as a result of insulting her family’s honor. It’s called “honor killing”. Fathers will kill daughters, sometimes brothers will kill sisters. It’s pretty convoluted and sick.
But enough of that. Zakaria came here jumping up and down like some immature teenage boy, claiming victory over Ali. I have as yet to see any victory by any of the Islamists who are debating Ali. He is cool, calm and eloquent. I’d like to see more people in America who can defend their ideas with such calmness and respectfulness of his opponents. Ali finds it all mildly amusing, I’m afraid. There is no bigger fool than Zakaria, only his arrogance blinds him to it. And this is why:
Islam is not a doctrine based on logical argument, commonsense or reasoning. It is based on hype and bravado. Muslims are triumphalists. Islam is a religion of idiocy. Its followers pride themselves on their blind faith. It is a fideistic religion, where faith is valued more than rational thought. In fact rational thought is despised and blind faith is praised. This can be easily seen from the statements of al-Gazali (1058 – 1111) who said: “Where the claims of reason come into conflict with revelation, reason must yield to revelation.” and even Jalaleddin Rumi who said.
The legs of the rationalists is made of wood
The wooden leg is draggy and it’s no good.How do you fight with people who despise reason and pride themselves in their irrational faith?
Good question, Ali. I doubt if there’s an answer to that…unless they’re coming after you with a sword to cut your head off. It seems to me we should be getting ready for that to happen, since you can check at this website how many Islamist organizations are in your area by zip code. If you put in your zip code, you’ll get a comprehensive listing of all the Islamic organizations including Mosques that are near you. I couldn’t believe how many are right here in my town!
This from a column written by Zakaria titled, What would you rather be: Ethnic Minority, Gentile or Dhimmi: “If anything it is the Muslims that have always shown the greatest degree of tolerance.” Yet, in an email to me, he made this statement: (The) prophecy of Prophet Muhammad (SAW), (is) that the end of time will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them all. Prior to that time anti-Semitism will become a virtue not a stigma!” He has even stated that moderate Muslims will have no safe haven. Now that’s tolerance!
As this article at Frontpage talks about, when it comes down to taking a stand against terrorism, most muslims don’t say a word. How can they? Terror is how they deal with the infidel; it’s taught to them in the Koran, the surah and it’s pushed on them from their local mosques, imams and clerics.
Yamin goes on to say in this same column that Muslims have “…no track records of the Islamic state forcefully converting people en masse or exterminating them.” This statement would put anyone who is in touch with reality into fits of hysterical laughter! How does one explain the genocide in Sudan? The Islamic government has a policy of killing all those who refuse to convert to Islam. That is called extermination and forced conversion in anyone’s dictionary but Yamin’s. On average, 10,000 people a month are dying of starvation in camps in Sudan because the people have fled the marauding Islamic death squads. Then, the Islamic government blocks the food from getting to the camps. If you can’t disembowel them — starve them to death. Sudan is but one example, there are many more.
The fact is, Muslims can’t even get along with each other. Sunni hate Shia, Shia hate Sunni, and the Wahhabi sect hates everyone.
Because the Wahhabi sect came up with the bright idea that Wahhabi is the only true Islam which makes the other sects infidels. Isn’t THAT a great one? So that means if you’re wahhabi, you’re out to kill the unbelievers who are also your fellow muslims. That’s kind of a mindblower, isn’t it?
Another startling statement made by Mr. Zakaria is: “The recent convergences of the European countries to persecute the Muslim communities are not due to any real threats but driven by prejudice.” The fact that Muslims are blowing up trains, slitting people’s throats, and attacking firemen that dare enter Muslim neighborhoods to put out fires has nothing to do with people becoming intolerant of Muslims. The civilized world is expected to accept the violent and irrational behavior of Islam without question. Muslims are not expected to abide by the laws of the land or respect their host country’s culture. It is their right to just be Muslim and all that encompasses. They don’t have to “get along.” Why? Because they feel they are above the rest of us “infidels.”
Yamin’s continued attacks on his debate opponent were a combination of twisted words and outright lies. In his epistle called: Freethinkers’ VS Islam and the Burden of Proof, Zakaria makes the nonsensical statement: “The clearest evidence of their hypocritical and cowardly nature with pretence of being ‘rational’ lies in fact that they do not to elaborate on their alternative solutions as vociferously as they express criticisms of Islam and Muslims!” HUH? This is an old Yamin trick, use lots of big words to confuse the ignorant but actually say nothing at all. What did he say here? Those who try to debate with him had better not challenge him because his small, closed mind can’t grasp the repetitive explanation of the “alternative solution.”
What Zakaria completely missed by bringing up the “golden rule” that although Ali is not a Christian, he points out that Christianity is very tolerant and the “golden rule” is all about respecting other people. To me, that’s the beauty in Christianity, it is based on the premise of every man’s free will. Every time Ali brings up a point like pedophaelia in Islam, Zakaria goes back to the Golden Rule. Beating Ali over the head with that is pretty ridiculous, since most reasonable people accept it as a good rule, whether you’re a Christian or not, and which Ali pointed out–is not unreasonable to expect people to follow a simple rule like that -which respects others. But that doesn’t fit within the concepts of Islam, because Islam is not about respecting others. Islam is about being dominant over others. (including women)
“Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” Pretty simple logic, heh? But Islamic arrogance demonstrates only that they believe they should be dominant in the world, and unbelievers should be treated as dhimmis. They’ve proven that time and again; particularly in this last round of events where they’re bleating from their prison cells at Gitmo about atrocities that are being committed against them and an Al Qaeda training manual is proof that they’re instructed to make false charges against their captors. And of course, the leftists are jumping up and down about it; but the simple truth of the matter is –it’s a tactic that liars use. And al-Taqiyya is lying for the sake of Islam, and is approved and sanctioned if it furthers the cause. I know, if you’re a religious person (other than a muslim) that is mind-bending, but Islam’s goal is to be dominant in the world, by any method at your disposal, and it’s much more difficult to catch a liar.
I read every word of this non-debate. First, let me point out that “freethinkers” are not allowed in Islam. Second, Ali Sina made it very clear that he didn’t care if people worshipped mushrooms as long as they didn’t roam the world killing innocent people on the orders of the head mushroom. To put it simple enough for even Yamin to understand, Sina wanted people to simply live by The Golden Rule of life — “Do unto others…” At no time was it stated that Muslims should become Hindu or Catholic or Buddhist. They should be able to live their lives free from fear of their own religion. When that “religion” tells them to kill in God’s name, and they follow that command, civilization must stop them. A six year old could understand this — but not Yamin.
While Yamin doesn’t tote a gun, he uses his words to incite hatred and violence. He enshrines those that kill and urges them to kill more. Sadly, his words are eagerly posted on Islamic sites. Many of these sites don’t know the real Yamin Zakaria. I do. I will continue to closely follow his hate filled rhetoric, as are others more powerful than I. From time to time I will report on his more outlandish statements. There is no way to keep him honest, but I will continue to expose his true nature — a terrorist who uses words instead of a sword. Yamin fights his wars like he debates: as a coward, hiding behind his computer screen, urging others to do his murderous dirty work.
And that, my friends, is how they do it. Hiding, shooting at Americans from Mosques, hiding behind women and children, the tactics are despicable to the western mind, but we’re going to have to get a grip on this rather quickly or we’re going to be destroyed.
Muslims are hellbent on taking over the world through deceptive strategies. One group of them commits all sorts of crimes against humanity and the other group, says: Ah! but these are not true Muslims. Everything is just a game - a game of deception! One group quotes the Quran to cause mayhem and the other group says these are misguided. If anyone says any thing against Islam the entire Muslim world enters in a state of frenzied mass hysteria, lives are destroyed everywhere and they demand apologies from everyone.
Islam is based on stupidity, not on reason. It is psychopathology. Muhammad was a psychopath. We have a billion people emulating a psychopath. How shall we deal with these people?
Leaving them alone is not an option. Islam is evil and as Edmund Burke said, “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” We can’t let Muslims destroy our world. We must stop them.
You can see Ali participating in a synopsium here at Frontpage Magazine. It’s particularly interesting because this synopsium talks about Islam’s treatment of women.
The death threat against Ali Sina
Barbara Stock’s piece, Sherlock Holmes and Me
Ali’s site: Faithfreedom.org
The Jawa Report linked with Religion of Peace Update: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta edition
Armies of Liberation linked with Cao looking for a few guys
May 30th, 2005 at 6:10 am
Quite a lot to digest here - Thanks for doing your best to sum it all up. I’ve spoken with Ali Sina recently and look forward to join in soon. I backed out before only after several death threats.
June 2nd, 2005 at 2:46 pm
The full debate can be viewed here.
No doubt the refernce will be removed once again by you ‘brave’ folks!
Likewise you keep citising Bar-bra’s article but not my responses to her!!!
It seems you are afraid to read the full debate and keep citing Sina’s site where my responses are missing.
I never claimed victory it was the idiotic SINA did that and then ran from the debate. Thats like a retreating army declaring victory. Yeah!!
June 2nd, 2005 at 2:50 pm
By the way Barbra likes to think she is my nemisis but read my response see how she was made a complete fool of. In fact my article was published far more widely within the US then hers!
Barbs is so thick she thinks “Muslims are a race”, Afgans are Arabs oh yeah and the US entered the Second World War to save the JEWS!
June 2nd, 2005 at 5:17 pm
You responses don’t make any sense, and I didn’t remove your reference, the link is still there, I just don’t like it running across my page like you, the crowing hysterical rooster. The reference is still there, you’re too stupid to see it, obviously. I have a “hover” feature and also, a link shows differently than regular text, even in comments.
Why should I be driving traffic to your site? There you go, making demands of the infidel. I’m not your servant. You want to drive traffic to your site? Find more people who want to free Palestine by killing more Jews.
June 2nd, 2005 at 9:35 pm
A verbal jihaddi.
June 2nd, 2005 at 9:39 pm
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June 3rd, 2005 at 11:44 am
Religion of Peace Update: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta edition
Now that I’ve got my Instalanche, I can just sit back and watch the hits coming. But in the spirit of solidarity to all my homies, here is what I’m reading this morning. Damn, it feels good to be a…
June 3rd, 2005 at 2:43 pm
Cao,
So glad you’re still fighting the good fight. And your energy seems limitless! Yamin seems to think he’s doing Islam a service by fighting his part of the war with words. Well, we’ve got news for him. We’re happy to meet him on all fronts, military and verbal. He’s losing both and just doesn’t have the sense to surrender. If I were his Muslim editor, I’d have fired him long ago. He’s in way over his head and it’s fun to watch him go down in flames.
Thanx for your undying faith and determination, Cao.
June 6th, 2005 at 4:58 am
Why a leading ‘Freethinker’ is a Liar, Hypocrite and a Coward?
A clarification of the debate with Ali Sina [1]
Ali Sina claimed in his previous [2] response that I had revealed a private email that was agreed to be off the record; - this is a clear lie. The email that Ali Sina requested for me to keep off the record was in fact pertaining to an entirely different subject matter from the debate. Although I never formally agreed to that but I have still kept that private until now. In contrast, the email that I have referred to in my previous response [3] and below is a copy of that email, is related to the debate itself; hence it is public material by its very nature as we are having a public discourse.
The content of the email clearly shows that Ali Sina was responding to my repeated requests to give the debate a fair coverage; he remained silent despite several requests and eventually he emailed me back with the excuse of his relative and his son visiting him. So, Sina is a first-degree liar as he claimed that the email was off the record. I still have a copy of those emails that were supposed to be off the record and I have not published them.
Examining the email content, it clearly shows how much of a coward Ali Sina is, he states that Islam has to be destroyed now, tomorrow is too late. Yet, he is afraid even to reveal his position to his Mullah (uncle) and relatives. What is even more hypocritical is that Ali Sina claimed that Muslims were animals but when he was reminded of his Muslim parents and family he qualified his statement to say only the devout Muslims are animals. Then like a hypocrite and a fool he said in his previous response [2] that he has devotion for the Mullah who has now become his beloved uncle: the Mullah is in fact is an Islamic cleric and therefore a devout Muslim! So, Sina’s ‘logic’ is all devout Muslims are animals but as long they are not members of his family! What a hypocrite! This again demonstrates Sina’s vanishing credibility as the flimsy nature of his arguments and their inherent contradictions keeps surfacing.
In addition, as people are talking interest in the debate, I would like to inform them that it is currently being hosted on the following website: http://www.icssa.org/yameendebate.html, given a FAIR coverage. When you click on the debate from the home-page you enter the contents page of the debate and each one of the responses by the respective parties can be read consecutively as one whole piece.
In contrast, if you click on the debate section on the home-page of Ali Sina’s website, it takes you into Ali Sina’s rebuttal not to the main contents page. You then have to click on the inconspicuous index at the bottom of the page to go to the main contents page to get an overall view of the debate. It becomes increasingly obvious that Sina wants to hide my response as much as possible while giving him self a favourable coverage.
Even now at the time of writing Ali Sina has entered under my column (Part IV, 5) his rebuttal! Not surprised, as Sina wanted to be judge jury and executioner from the very beginning of the debate when he proposed that I should take his word on assessing the debate and trust him to give prize money. I am sure the readers have been given ample evidence of Mr Sina’s integrity by now! Accordingly, Ali Sina has laughably declared his own victory like a senile drunk waving his fist around. Also note as indicated below in my email, that even to get Ali Sina to post my rebuttals as one piece took several requests as he initially entered my rebuttal embedded in his rebuttal!
Indeed I have proven using SINA’s statements (not outbursts) beyond doubt many a times that he is a liar, a coward and an unprincipled man who just engages in abuse without elaboration or substantiation. As I am preparing my response, I felt I needed to make this clarification as it relates to how he debate was managed by Mr Sina on his website and I thought as a self-proclaimed ‘freethinker’ at the very least he would give a fair coverage to the debate. In addition I would like to direct the audience to the correct site so that they obtain a fair view of the debate.
Yamin Zakaria
London, UK
[1] http://www.icssa.org/yameendebate.html
[2] http://www.icssa.org/yamindebate8.html
[3] http://www.icssa.org/yamindebate6.html
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Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 06:14:19 -0800 (PST)
From: “Ali Sina” View Contact Details
Subject: Re: Third and FINAL Reminder - Debate
To: “Yamin Zakaria” wrote:
> Mr Sina,
>
> I am almost finished preparing my response. But
> however, I am rather dissapointed to see that you
> have ignored my previous requests to address the
> issue of how the debate is displayed on your
> website. At present my responses do not appear as
> one coherant separate piece but the articles is
> split into several sections with your rebuttals at
> the bottom. That is YOUR response which should
> appear as a separate piece from mine.
>
> What I have suggested earlier was FAIR. And I insist
> that Each response should be entered separately and
> consecutively so that a FAIR coverage of the debate
> is given. We are both given an EQUAL voice. Also
> neither of us is permitted to alter the content once
> submitted.
>
> Most importantlly our readers would not be mislead
> into viewing a series of rebuttal by Ali-Sina as
> opposed to a a two way debate. I am sure a man your
> intellect and conviction want to pursue this debate
> as FAIRLY as possible.
>
> This is my FINAL REQUEST. If you do NOT address this
> matter I will have no option but I will take further
> measures on this point. That would not be helpful to
> your case as it would make you appear to look
> dishonest about the entire episode!
>
> Yamin
>
June 6th, 2005 at 5:06 am
He stopped posting your rebuttals because you’re crazy as a loon. Wacko. Nutjob. Crazy!
If you could stop ranting long enough to realize that the Golden Rule is a concept that’s accepted universally in all religions except Islam, maybe we could get somewhere. But you don’t. You’ve won nothing except an award (see this hand? I’m flipping you the bird) from me for how abusive and arrogant Islamists are towards people who they view as dhimmis.
Quit your ranting and keep it to your own website, scumbag. I don’t sympathize with terrorists. My blog is not your soapbox.
There are two very huge rants from you in my moderation queue which I’m going to delete. You are my guest, behave like one. This is not your website!
If you’re looking for terrorist sympathizers, you’ve come to the wrong place. Frankly, I’m not interested in going to your disgusting website, or promoting links to it. You’re just proving the point that terrorists don’t have any respect for the infidel (which some of us already know by the inhumane treatment of Margaret Hassan who had her arms and legs cut off and was disembowelled–probably while held down and bound and probably after they raped and sodomized her, since Islam approves that kind of treatment of women captives, regardless as to whether they’re married or how old they are.).
You’re also proving the point that in your world, dhimmis have no rights…that you, the ever powerful Islamist, own the world. I have a bulletin for you: You don’t, and I’m going to do everything within my power to expose the fallacies of your argument, the vacuous ideology you represent which is a false religion of vicious violence and oppression.
June 6th, 2005 at 7:14 am
Yamin, you are arguing semantics. You have yet to defend Mohammed or Islam. I and billions of others know why. You can’t. You can’t defend that which is bereft of morality, ethics and simple, common sense. I am reading your so-called “debate” with Ali Sina and you promised us comedy. You were right. I’ve had quite a few chuckles everytime you have put your fingers to the keyboard. And all at your expense. Your only defense has consisted of nothing but lame counter-attacks. You argue that a billion people follow your “religion” yet carefully do not mention that there are 5 billion others who do not believe in your “religion” nor anything even resembling it. 5 billion others who actually pattern their lives after Mr. Sina’s Golden Rule. Doesn’t that register anything in your pathetic little brain? You are a minority and all you’re doing, time and time again, is proving why that is true.
June 6th, 2005 at 8:32 am
I see the technique–being an unreasonable pig is a part of it; beating someone into submission is another. Both of which does not recognize or respect the individual with whom you’re having the debate, and both demonstrate exactly what it is that we’re facing.
Thanks for the education, Zakaria, you’ve taught my readers by example much more than I could have with writing my own piece~!
For my readers: Read Behold the Face of Islam, the piece by Barbara Stock where she totally exposes him for who he is…
”AMERICAN PIGS and SCUMS Behaving LIKE CATHOLIC FASCISTS” and “US Soldiers - BABY KILLERS - Wanted for GENOCIDE against the WORLD” This from a man who cheered the execution of a pregnant Israeli woman and her four small children as a great victory for Islam. Mr. Zakaria saw nothing wrong with the murder of a two year old toddler, who had three bullets put in her head as she sat crying in her car-seat. After all, she was a Jew.
More on Tali Hatual here, here, here and here.
June 6th, 2005 at 12:14 pm
Yamin, I must say that you are not only irrational, but you are not communicating, which infers that you are willing to LISTEN to other points of view as much as you are interested in spouting propaganda about Islam. Therefore, rather than being an intellectual, you are a radical, which is defined as one who thinks that your view is the only correct one.
I personally think that you are boring, but I must say that the more you spout, the more convinced I am that Islam is not so much a religious conviction as it is a power-base for idiots. And this of course may work for you in a world full of idiots, but it doesn’t set very well here in America.
Of course, I do not blame you; it isn’t your fault that someone dropped you on your head when you were a baby.
June 7th, 2005 at 5:11 pm
Mr. Zakaria,
What exactly did you mean by this:
“This is my FINAL REQUEST. If you do NOT address this matter I will have no option but I will take further measures on this point.”
I think that if you diregarded the section of the Koran that asks the believers not to be too friendly with unbelievers, you might be able to expand your horiznes a little & debate in a more coherent & rational manner.
Great post Cao, you put a lot of information together very well.
June 11th, 2005 at 4:59 am
To NY GIRL - The reason why I said that is because Sina was not putting up my responses initially. The email is clear proof with Sina acknowledging that including his prayers. LOL
Then I had to make the point in his forum - Then after getting exposed and to save further embarrassment he put up my responses, since a debate is a two-way exchange. You see talk about rational and coherant debate you need to help and guide SINA - Also you need to read the entire debate on http://www.icssa.org. No doubt many of you will not understand the entire exchange, or the essential points in the debate. Some of you are just too biggoted and some are too stupid!
BY the SINA finally realised that he cannot cite Ghandhi as he was an advocate of ISLAM so he has removed his picture from his website. So you see I have educated him a little! :mrgreen::lol:
Sina stop putting my responses because he could not cope and HE IS THE ONE STOPPED RESPONDING ran for cover with his tails bewtween his legs. Again read my response (which are not on his site) on http://www.icssa.org
Yamin
June 11th, 2005 at 5:07 am
My FINAL Response to Ali Sina
Ali Sina has by HIS OWN standards surrendered the debate. He has stopped posting my rebuttals [1] and removed the entire debate from his home page into the archives. I remind readers of Ali Sina’s arrogant statement that if I did not publish his responses the readers will: “interpret this as your lack of confident in your ability to win this debate” [7]. Ali Sina has once again hung himself and his supporters with his own rope.
He has made a series of fatal blunders that compelled him to cut & run, I invite you all to read a sample of them listed below:
1) Sina says: all Muslims are “animals” [4], he then admits [5] to respecting his “elderly beloved” uncle, who is a devout Muslim. Shockingly Sina also admits to praying as Muslims. Breathtaking hypocrisy exposed to us and his disappointed supporters must be very uncomfortable for him, a good reason to run.
2) Sina says: £50,000 as reward for the winner of a debate. But he denied any evidence to the audience of the money being real. Secondly, he wanted to place himself as the debating party as well as judge! At the very least this man is a fraud exposed before everyone.
3) Sina says: “Most of the conflicts both of past and present are/were caused by Islam” [2] – How did Islam cause, World War I, World War II, Korean War, Vietnam War, Spanish-American War, Falkland War, 100 Years War, Napoleonic Wars, Opium Wars, 30 Years War, American Civil War, 1991/2003 Gulf War, Russo-Japanese War, Boer War, Zulu-British War, French-Indochina War etc? Sina is demonstrating the traits of a true “intellectual midget” (his words) hanging himself and his long suffering ‘supporters’.
4) Sina says: “Tibet was never historically part of China” [3] – It is fact that Tibet was one of the thirteenth provinces of China by Kublai Khan; it remained as part of China through the Yuan, Ming and the Ching dynasties. Sina again demonstrates the traits of an “intellectual midget,” very poor on research and fact.
5) Sina says: “As for Japan, Americans never killed civilians en masse” [3] – fact 250,000 civilians killed in firebombing of Tokyo; in one night alone over 80,000 killed [8]. Followed by the mass killing of innocent civilians in Hiroshima (>120,000) and Nagasaki (>80,000). Yet, from the onset Sina bragged about his “solid ground of facts” [7], such clumsy blunders made his retreat from the debate predictable! …………………….
Read the rest here: http://www.icssa.org/yameendebate.html
June 11th, 2005 at 5:31 am
You’re obviously smitten with yourself, Zakaria.
June 11th, 2005 at 9:31 am
LOL Cao …
August 8th, 2005 at 1:59 pm
Ali Sina quite clearly has been made a laughing stock, worst thing about this all is he has been made a joke over the internet(!). Quite clearly he has lost the debate and the plot and i would say he is a disturbing individual as well as intellectually bankrupt. Yet he seems to be spokesperson for racists all over the world.
August 8th, 2005 at 2:01 pm
*yawn* not really. But it’s amusing that you say that. It’s stupid Islamists who say infidels are “slaves to their desires” that are making fools of themselves. Ali is a cultured gentleman (unlike so many of you rubes), an honorable spokesman for everyone who cherishes REAL FREEDOM and not the fascist totalitarian sharia law that produces mass graves, missing generations of males in families, honor killings, hangings, stonings, disembowellings or missing hands and feet cut off in disgusting and bloody public displays. Ali has been joined by many people who are ex-muslims who are saying the same thing. But of course, you don’t mention the armies of people who are speaking out against Islam, having personally experienced it. You know, like Arab Christians who came to America because they were afraid for their lives and the safety of their families.
It must really pain you that people are willing to leave Islam even with a fatwa of death-to-the-infidel hanging over their heads.
To pin that label on one person truly indicates to me how desperate people who hold your ideology are at this point. Nobody’s listening anymore, are they? bwahahahaha
Must be the backlash you’re experiencing in Amsterdam after Theo Van Gogh’s death. I bet Mohammed Bouyeri is awful lonely rotting all by himself in that prison cell for the rest of his life. I wonder if he thinks about the words he said to Theo’s mother and how cruel they were: “I cannot feel for you, because I believe you are an infidel.” If not, the rest of the world was listening to those words.
I bet Bouyeri doesn’t get 3 halal meals per day blessed by an imam, his own prayer rug or called to prayer the way your buddies are getting at Club Gitmo. And what of the rest of the Hofstad Network? Now with the new anti-terrorism laws in Amsterdam you guys won’t be as free anymore as you watch your buddies like Rachid Belkacem, get deported to the Netherlands, and Redouan al-Issar arrested by Syrian authorities. No more hurling hand grenades at police, I guess!
August 29th, 2005 at 4:13 pm
Cao, I really believe that without any reasonable doubt that you have lost in all your criticisms of Mr. Yamin Zakaria. If you would notice, he never referred to you with any derogatory names, however during the course of your repsonses you often called him, as well as the rest of the muslims “pigs, roosters, etc.” You also referred to Mr. Sina as a gentlemen and Mr. Sina called all devout muslims ‘animals’ as Mr. Zakaria clearly indicated. Perhaps the reason you consider him a gentlemen is because you share a common animal fetish. You clearly are bigotted and lose all rationality when writing about Muslims, just as your friend Mr. Sina. I applaud Mr. Zakaria for his intellectual responses, though as far as you and Mr. Sina are concerned, they have fallen your deaf ears and black hearts.
August 29th, 2005 at 4:45 pm
Blow it out your Qu’ran. Islamists consider us “dhimmis”. In the Islamic world I’d be a second class citizen and wouldn’t have the right to an opinion….I could have my hand chopped off. Or a foot. Or my head. Zakaria believes capitalism is evil, he’s written about it, he thinks the world should be operating under sharia law, just like the terrorists we’re fighting in Iraq and elsewhere. He’s in agreement with the terrorists who are out to destroy us and his writings display that in no uncertain terms. He doesn’t even try to cover it up with al-takeyya.
Another devastatingly stupid statement made by Zakaria is: “The recent convergences of the European countries to persecute the Muslim communities are not due to any real threats but driven by prejudice.”
Uh…hello! Muslims are hacking heads off while videotaping it, blowing up trains, slitting people’s throats, and attacking firemen that dare enter Muslim neighborhoods to put out fires. These things have nothing to do with people who are intolerant of Muslims. The civilized world is expected to accept the violent and irrational behavior of Islam without question? Without pointing out this ridiculous rhetoric?
Muslims are not expected to abide by the laws of the land or respect their host country’s culture. It is their right to just be Muslim and all that encompasses. They don’t have to “get along.” Why? Because they feel they are above the rest of us “infidels.”
I have every damned right to talk about that and I don’t care if you don’t like it. OK? I don’t care if you insult me, and I don’t care if you try to treat me as though I’m a dhimmi.
Ah so many terrorists, so many engineering students. So many terrorists who were/are engineering students. Coincidence? I think not.
Well isn’t that too bad? I don’t live in the Islamic world under Sharia law, so I could give two rips about what you have to say.
All you and Zakaria and your band of idiots are doing is solidifying and verifying that the terrorists cannot be reasoned with or appeased, EVER. They deserve DEATH. With pigsblood-soaked bullets and a bunch of bacon stuff in their mouths.
You, like Zakaria, are a pathetic worm. Go away.
September 9th, 2005 at 12:35 am
A famous teacher once said,” A fool who knows himself as a wise man is a real fool”. Knowledge does not equate wisdom.
February 3rd, 2007 at 7:41 am
Albert Einstein:
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
Norman Cousins:
Wisdom consists of the anticipation of consequences.
March 3rd, 2008 at 11:53 pm
Funny how the picture titled “The Difference” doesn’t take into account the vast ‘difference’ in resources, manpower or access of mass media.
March 4th, 2008 at 7:34 am
Or the New York Times, Reuters and the AP siding with the terrorists and rooting for them.
May 5th, 2008 at 1:18 am
Why is sina so much afraid of death why cant he see that his friend wilders has made a movie against Islam or his master pop said derogatory and insulting things about our beloved prophet (Saw) they are not killed so why is he so afraid. If you are so much confident then why are you not using a popular medium to carrying your daft massage to the people. But you and your stupid fiends know that you are lying the way your masters Abu-Jahil and Abu-lahab lied in Makka against Islam and Prophet (Saw).Even if you die for this cause you should be happy
I have read your debate with Yamin Zakria and frankly you are badly exposed in that debate and I m sure you will never forget this in your whole life and from now onwards you will not debate with a person like Yamin Zakria.
Alhamdulillah all praises be to Allah that the kufr is again exposed and defeated because it is bound to defeat and parish.
May 5th, 2008 at 5:19 am
blah, blah, blah. Whatever.
Zakaria has a problem, and it looks like you do, too.
The kafr are not defeated, hahahahaha; it is the irhabis who have been exposed as mufsiduun….that’s why muslims are fighting muslims…that’s why the mufsiduun are killing their own people, and your fellow muslims KNOW IT.
This is such a fact that there are scores of former muslims at FaithFreedom.org who are warning people about the dangers of Islam!!! That’s why there are muslims against sharia. This is why the Anbar Awakening in Iraq…this is why the Northern Alliance opposes the Taliban in Afghanistan. The mufsiduun are making a bad name for all muslims, which will make it all the harder for you to succeed, even in the smallest of battles without a hudna.
But we know about your taqiyya, your hudnas, and your other evil tricks…so bring it on
May 10th, 2008 at 5:23 am
You didn’t reply to my question. Why are you so much afraid of death. AS you said you have scores of former Muslims:) so why don’t you use them and launch a campaign on Propaganda TV channels such as CNN, BBC, Fox News etc or why don’t you accept the challenge of those Muslims scholars who are debating on TV. You know why, because you know you are kafir and you are hiding the truth in your hearts, that’s why you can’t dare to face any Muslim scholar or when ever you will face you will be defeated as your William Campbell got defeated in his own country and as your Sina got defeated.
As per the reports and surveys done and published by westerners it is evident that overwhelming majority in the Muslim world want to live strictly by Sharah and wants to re-establish Islamic Khilafah which is the biggest nightmare for the west as there system has failed miserably and the institution which they have established fall down like twin towers. Now they are using daft people such as Sina to carry out an evil propaganda campaign against Muslims and Islam. One thing your masters know is that Islam will soon dominant the world and will expose and eradicate all other Isms Including Sina-ism and will again take the humanity out from the severe darkness to the light of Islam.
“FALSHOOD IS BY ITS NATURE BOUND TO PARISH”
May 10th, 2008 at 7:03 am
I don’t have to reply to your question. You love death as much as we love life, but I am not “afraid of death”; I am guaranteed heaven because of Christ’s sacrifice on the cross, and I have accepted Him as my personal Saviour. We are not afraid to die-that is why Christ said in John 15:13 “No one has greater love than this, to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.”
I don’t need to worry like you do from day-to-day about whether or not I’m going to heaven. You are “afraid of life” because Mohammad made only one guarantee of eternal paradise - and that is to blow yourself up for jihad. What a sad paranoid and fearful way to live!!!
Jesus strapped himself to the cross so I don’t have to strap a bomb to myself. I don’t have to do cleansing. I don’t have to face a certain direction to pray…I don’t have the ’scales’ to worry about every day. AND-I don’t have to live in constant fear and hatred of others.
In Islam, fathers kill their daughters and wives to protect the family honor. In Christianity, women are put on a pedestal; they are to be protected and honored. Children are cherished and nurtured. In Islam, women must be covered or they are considered ‘meat’-they are thrown in front of jihadists with their children as human shields; wives are beaten in the halal manner; girl children are allowed to die–they are so afraid of women that they mutilate them as children so they cannot have sexual pleasure; and men are not only allowed many wives, but to marry children before they hit sexual maturity.
Islam produces a culture that is addicted to rage and lust for violence, terror and suicide. Taliban militants’ spare time involves sodomizing young boys. “That a mass pathology such as this occurs in a culture which demonizes the female and her sexuality — and puts her out of mind and sight — is only to be expected. To be sure, it is a simple given that the religious male fanatic who flies into a violent rage even at the thought of an exposed woman’s ankle will also be, in some other dysfunctional and dark secret compartment of his fractured life, the person who leads some poor helpless young boy into his private chambers.”-Jamie Glazov
The only way that women are equal is after death on Judgment day, when men and women will be judged on how well they followed the Koran and the Sunna. And guess what? The only way to follow the Koran and the Sunna is to obey men. Equality means obeying men.
Woman are superior by being a mother, who must obey her husband. So the perfect woman on Judgment day will be a mother, who obeyed all the men in her life. So really, the women are subordinate to men in 100% of all of the Koran, Hadith and the Sira.
The Violent Opression of Women in Islam (click here for video)
And you display that need for domination by ordering me around in my comments section; you think you are entitled to superiority simply because you’re a muslim - and everyone else should cower in dhimmitude.
It is sad, really. But I do not live in your world of pent-up sexual frustration and rage. I feel sorry for you and Zakaria, but will continue to pray for the muslim world.
May 10th, 2008 at 11:12 am
Quite Frankly, Islamic excuse making for murdering children makes me sick Cao. I am grateful that my God has instructed me to love, to nurture my children in his ways, and I can be confident in having a place in heaven. Islamofacism is just sick.
May 10th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
If it’s a choice of between submit to these monsters or death, I choose death. I don’t consider the pedophile prophet to be someone worth emulating; but he is their perfect model.
The thing is, the western idea of chivalry and western men are so attractive to muslim women -because they show a tenderness and caring that no muslim man has ever shown them.
This is why young muslim girls who strike up very innocent friendships with the infidel wind up dead. Sometimes they’re killed based purely on rumors. And it doesn’t just go for infidel men - it goes for any man at all. Muslims are very threatened by this sort of thing. Muslim girls are only allowed to marry muslim men, once the infidel has ‘converted’ to Islam, they’re not allowed to change their mind - it seems to be based on some serious problems with self image and insecurity. Sometimes it’s just a guy that the family doesn’t like or approve of - who is muslim!
Beastiality is also allowed in that culture; I’ve seen videos of guys literally ******** farm animals.
I think it’s written in the holy texts that you screw the animal and then kill it. You can’t eat the animal once you’ve f*cked it. At least the Aytolla Khomeini wrote out rules for sex with animals…
Khomeini’s Teachings on sex with infants and animals here
Now I understand why leftists support Islam…so much of this kind of depravity is what they want to normalize.
From Khomeini’s book, “Tahrirolvasyleh”. More here
The videos the jihadists put on the internet show us they get their thrills from murder and spilling the blood of innocents. Their desire and the commands from the Quran to slit our throats are not concealed. They are fools to think we are not prepared; or that we are not preparing the generations after us.
This is a multi-generational war that they must not win. And many on both sides will die in the process.
I am not afraid of that…and no rational thinking person should be afraid of that.
Knowing what we’re facing, and what they consider acceptable, and what sharia law would give us, it’s worth dying to protect our way of life.
The tree of liberty is refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. -Thomas Jefferson
May 10th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Well, I just lost my lunch… Holy Cow (or should I say Poor Donkey!!!). Cao, these people are the lowest forms of life. The more I know about Islam, the better I like atheists. At least they don’t do all manner of perversion; murder and rape their children in the name of the “UnGod”. You are right, if Islamist extremists think they want to bring the fight to the West, I will die for my God, Country and way of life, but not before I do my part to exterminate them. Their “religion” is total BS and they are no better than pond scum.
May 11th, 2008 at 1:49 am
It’s quite funny as well as ironic to read your comments about Islam. Why your west eccepting Islam and majority of whom are women. You still believe in Christianity which is proved wrong and the book is altered by many individuals. Even if your read bible you will find out that the Jesus (pbuh) has stated clearly the there will come a messenger after me and he shell tell you those things which you can not understand now. I would refer you to see a debate between your William Campbell with Zakir naik about Islam and Christianity.
Grow up and say things which make sense and don’t be so much silly and daft
“THE BATIL IS BY ITS NATURE BOUND TO PARISH”
May 11th, 2008 at 5:03 am
Your bigotry is showing,
and so is your taqiyya. “War is deceit,” said the Prophet Muhammad, according to Hadith 4:269.
As to the Bible’s accuracy, you needn’t go far to find scientific evidence that backs it up. If there was a great flood, for example, you’d find billions of dead things buried in sedimentary mud layers (rock). And what do you know, archeological digs show us billions of death things buried in sedimentary mud layers (rock)….deposited in only months, days, hours, or minutes, and not thousands or millions of years.
Reliability of the Bible—In what ways have archaeological discoveries verified it? Answer
How does archaeology conclusively demonstrate the Bible to be reliable and unique among all the holy books of world religions? Answer
Confirmation of Biblical events—Is there any from written sources outside the Bible? Answer
Burial Sites—Have the graves of any people in the Bible been found? Answer
Noah’s Ark—Has anyone really discovered it? Answer
Evidences for the worldwide flood of Noah’s day Go
Evidences for Creation Go
Origin of humans Go
Dinosaurs and the Bible Go
Scientific questions about the Bible Go
Archaeologist uncovers Scriptures’ famed wall
Muslims sued for destroying Jewish Temple artifacts
Muslims caught red-handed destroying Temple artifacts
Temple’s location found, says Israeli archaeologist
Real-life raiders hunt Ark of the Covenant
Isn’t it interesting that Islamists would go out and destroy evidence that proves what the Bible says is true?
Atheists and Islamists’ stupidity in four easy lessons
Answering Islam Awareness’ claim: The bible says the earth is flat
Actually, muslims are turning away from Islam by the boatload despite the threats of death against apostates. Now try to figure out why that would be. I notice you ignored the video about Ergan Caner, the brilliant son of a Sunni muslim architect (his father came here to prostheletize Islam and build mosques). Imagine his father’s dismay when both of his sons and their mother converted to Christianity. He gives his reasoning why, and what he says in response to muslims in that video clip; he debates with them often. He is relieved that he doesn’t have to live by the scales anymore. If what you say is true about Christianity, why are so many muslims converting? If what you say is true, Christianity would be dead, like the body in the tomb of your pedophile prophet.
Christianity differs greatly from Islamic interpretation of the Bible; which is probably the reason why Islam teaches to stay away from the kafr. Despite that, in the west, we still have to live and work together…so the lies of Islam about Christianity are often very much exposed.
Christians had accepted Christ as Messiah long before Mohammed was even born.
So tell me again we are afraid of death.
Yet, despite this, many are leaving Islam; while they try in desperation to convince us they’re the fastest growing religion.
Now They Call Me Infidel: Why I Renounced Jihad for America, Israel, and the War on Terror
Why I Left Jihad: The Root of Terrorism and the Return of Radical Islam (Hardcover)
From Jihad to Jesus (Paperback) - Rassamni’s personal journey from Islam to Christianity is very instructive and helps one understand the depraved mentality of suicide bombers.
A personal journey from Islam to Christianity
Why I left Islam
Many western women, like Laura Mansfield, are seduced by the dark good looks of a muslim or middle eastern man, not realizing what they’re getting into until it’s too late. They are tricked! She wrote a book about it, entitled Inshallah-My Journey Into the World of Islam, and My Escape. Luckily, though, Mansfield, after spending years in Cairo with her terrorist husband, started to realize what was going on, and managed to escape with her two children. Unfortunately most women who wind up in this situation end up sex slaves and prisoners of the men who surround them because the muslim world is set up for women to be totally dependent on men - with no means of escape. That’s really a sad commentary as to how it really works in the muslim world,and what it’s like to live under sharia law.
What I find incredibly interesting about Laura Mansfield’s story is how she turned what she learned in Cairo against radical Islam and continues to do so today - with her strategic translations.
But what I’m reading in comments from you- shouldn’t come as a surprise since you’re of the blind nazi Ukruknet stripe; the irhabi mufsidoon.
You will be destroyed, along with your 7th century stupidity.
Q.5: 51: O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as awliya’, they are but awliya’ to one another…
That statement is false-Think about the Bosnia-Kosovo crisis as an example; where a Christian country waged war against another Christian country to liberate Muslims. Many Jewish doctors volunteered to help the Kosovo refugees, despite the fact that during the WWII, the same Albanian Muslims took sides with Hitler and helped him in his holocaust against the Jews.
I am of the mind that helping any muslim is a huge mistake that is contributing to the fall of western civilization.