8/26/2006
Kathryn Cramer’s leftist fantasy world; one of denial
Recently I stumbled upon a post at Kathryn Cramer’s collection of dimentia which she calls a ‘blog’, lol. This little piece of vomit was written about me and my supposed ‘themes of homicide and revenge’. Is that really what I have over here? We are at war. What is it exactly about that concept that she doesn’t understand?
Apparently, violence, for one thing. She is a ‘peacenik’. A person who doesn’t believe in war, because she doesn’t believe there’s anything worth fighting for. Or dying for, and I assume that includes her own child. That is very sad.
Is war a political game, or a war of attrition where you kill the enemy? We won the war against the Nazis, because it was a war of attrition. After the war they were considered ‘criminals’ and had to face the consequences, put on trial for war crimes, and sentenced.
Hermann Göring, for example, was considered the number two man in Nazi Germany after Hitler. He waged a vigorous defense on his own behalf, which did him no good, because in the end, he was found guilty on all 4 counts. He was sentenced to death by hanging.
Oh, the horror!
Rudolf Hess served as the number three man in Hitler’s Germany until his flight to England on May 10, 1941, in which he attempted to negotiate peace with the British, who promptly imprisoned him for the duration of the war. He was found guilty on counts 1 and 2 and sentenced to life imprisonment.
Cramer would be inclined to fight for his release.
Joachim von Ribbentrop was the Nazi Minister of Foreign Affairs from 1938 to 1945, and signed the Nazi-Soviet non-aggression Pact of 1939 which paved the way for Hitler to attack Poland. Ribbentrop later involved himself in the Final Solution by pressuring the Italian, Bulgarian, Hungarian and Danish governments to evacuate Jews. He was found guilty on all four counts and sentenced to death by hanging.
Martin Bormann was sentenced to death by hanging, Karl Doenitz was sentenced to 10 years, Hans Frank was sentenced to death by hanging, Wilhelm Frick sentenced to death by hanging, and so on.
But consequences to behavior like that is not what Cramer supports.
The counts were
Count 1 - CONSPIRACY to commit crimes alleged in the next three counts.
Count 2 - CRIMES AGAINST PEACE including planning, preparing, starting, or waging aggressive war.
Count 3 - WAR CRIMES including violations of laws or customs of war.Count 4 - CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY including murder, extermination, enslavement, persecution on political or racial grounds, involuntary deportment, and inhumane acts against civilian populations.

There is a reason our enemy is called IslamoFASCIST. Hitler was a FASCIST, and the ideology the leftists are defending is very similar to what we were fighting during the War against Nazi Germany. Saddam was a FASCIST, his uncle was a nazi, and Saddam Hussein learned these techniques very well, having modeled his deadly Anfal Campaign after Hitler’s Final Solution.
It is baffling that people like Cramer don’t acknowledge that the ‘homocide’ I refer to and abhor is that which is perpetrated against innocent civilians by terrorists, which she doesn’t acknowledge exists. It is also amusing that she adds ‘revenge’ into the mix. There is a difference between ‘revenge’ and the concept of ’self defense’. If someone has vowed to kill you, as the jihadis have, self preservation demands that you simply-kill them first. In a strange twist of moral relativism, Cramer and her cohorts morally legitimize bloody acts by terrorists, viewing them as mere responses, not resulting from a culture of death and hatred. This is a huge missing.
Before and after Fallujah’s last episode, terrorists resorted to “collect” their victims. On one of their audio websites, they called them “assembled sheep” (Tajmeeh al khawareef) who were to be “sacrificed” at will. Do people like Kathryn Cramer even acknowledge these facts or read the translations from the Jihadi message boards? No, I’ve never seen any references to these things. They are into a very elementary simplistic and juvenile mentality of ‘the Great Satan’ American, just like Osama Bin Laden. What I don’t understand is–some woman living in suburbia who is striving so hard to destroy a way of life that she herself enjoys.
You see, when you cross over into that other dimension where reality never hits you, it’s easy to dismiss the actions of suicide bombers and murdering head hackers who target civilians and hide behind women and children and rush to the defense of their civil rights (? what?). On the flipside, it’s very effective (although despicable) in this propaganda war to demonize people like Jack Idema who are actually fighting the war on terror, and facing down the enemy every day at the risk of their own personal safety.
I know it’s difficult for someone who sympathizes with the terrorists and doesn’t realize these people would just as easily cut anyone’s head off with a butter knife as they did Nick Berg. Nick Berg’s father was a member of Act Now to Stop War and End Racism (ANSWER) -yet his involvement in the anti-war movement did little to save Nick, and the gruesome details of his last moments have been played over and over again on the internet by either people who dig that kind of thing, or people like me, who are willing to face up to the fact that people like that exist in the world…and are willing to stand up and fight the totalitarian ideology. To my way of thinking, it is either a denial as to the goal of the terrorists–to kill the unbelievers wherever they find them–or a blind belief that if we ‘make friends’ with them, this will all end. Either way, that is utter stupidity, IMO.
Living in denial is not going to get us anywhere. Making peace with terrorists is only going to get people killed. Look at what’s happening with the rise of terrorist attacks after Karzai has ‘forgiven’ the Taliban.
Just because Cramer doesn’t have the stomach to watch beheading videos or Al Qaeda videos of cold blooded murder- or acknowledge the horrible crimes of the Taliban or Al Qaeda doesn’t mean the rest of us should also live in that dangerous fantasy world where ‘Love is all you need’. Nice phrase, but there are other components to living, one of which is defending yourself from murderers and rapists. We are in a fight for our very survival, against a totalitarian ideology, not unlike the war with Nazi Germany…only today, this war is being fought against a different enemy. It’s an enemy without a country, with no uniforms or code of honor.
Every time I bring myself to watch one of those videos of someone tied up, completely defenseless, while someone is slowly killing them (as the narrator of the Nick Berg tape says–killing him with patience) -I have to wonder why it is that people like Kathryn Cramer don’t acknowledge that terrible people exist in this world who wish to do us harm and end our way of life. They’ve made it very clear that’s the goal, after all.
Kathryn seems to live in this very strange world where revisionist history abounds, and reality doesn’t exist.
Why do leftists continue their outrage over my treason hunter’s contest? Why do they deny the reality that people who committed treason at one time in our noble history would up in front of a firing squad or dangling at the end a rope? Complaining about Stephen Pearcy receiving ‘death threats’ from me is really ridiculous, Kathryn, although I can see what you’re trying to do, lol. C’mon. Pearcy put up a soldier in effigy which certainly advocates violence against our fighting forces, and he even had the balls to say “I hope they all die.” I wonder if he yells ‘allah akbar’ when there is news of another soldier’s death in this cause.
And I guess the ‘kill Bush’ pictures and sweatshirts are entirely acceptable to her, because as I’ve seen elsewhere, Bush is the ‘worst terrorist in the world’ -and republicans are fascists.

Kathryn lives in a world where ‘all the world needs love’, but I’ll bet if she tried to convince a terrorist of that, this would be the result.
Totalitarians always kill their enablers first.

There another example of this amazing convoluted sense of things with a a ‘peace organization’ called Christian Peacemaker Teams. This “peace” organization of human shields blames 9/11 on American foreign policy, ran an “Adopt-a-Detainee” campaign, regularly interfered with Israeli anti-terror operations, trespassed at a U.S. military base during wartime, has waged a relentless propaganda campaign against the American “occupation” of Iraq, has demonstrated against Americans and capitalists around the world – and blames the abduction of its members on President Bush. Sounds to me as though this group of so-called “Christians” fits right in with the ideology that Cramer espouses. See more on them at Frontpage Magazine.
With Tom Fox’s recent murder by terrorists and leftist complaining that it was really Special Forces that did it, there seems to be no end to the leftist demonization of our fighting forces and their glorification of terrorists. Tom Fox’s membership and activism in Christian Peacemaker Teams cost him his life, and I’m sure the other four members who in Iraq, have stood with the terrorists, harassed U.S. troops, accused GIs of unspeakable war crimes, and said, in effect, on 9/11 America got what it had coming….will get much the same treatment from their captors as Tom Fox did.
Rocco diPippo says it most eloquently at the Autonomist:
Everything I’ve read about Mr. Fox indicates that, though misguided in his worldview, he was basically a decent man. Fox played in the United States Marine Band for twenty years. A Quaker, he served as a youth leader at Langley Hill Friends Meeting. His daughter, Katherine, says that while he was in the military, he refused military discounts on principle.
But Fox also harbored hatred for his culture and an overall disdain for America, as indicated by statements on his blog. He also suffered from a terrible naivete: “I think it would be fair to say that a survey of opinion taken from news sources in various parts of the world would find people using the words ‘fear and hatred’ much more often than they would use the words ‘respect and love’ when it comes to describing the United States. Not only in the Middle East but in Europe and in much of Asia and other areas as well. We are seen more as an empire rather than a beacon of hope to the oppressed and downtrodden. We are seen more as a militaristic superpower, bent on imposing our will on others, rather than the keeper of the flame of the hope and promise of democracy,” said Thomas William Fox, missing the fact that people fear America so much, that they flock to its shores in droves, seeking freedom and peace and economic opportunity.
After reading most of his blog entries, it seems to me that Tom Fox’s tragic flaw, the one that ultimately got him killed, was that he did not really believe that some men are more evil than others.
Crippled by this moral confusion, Fox habitually ignored the greater of two evils. His blog entry on Fallujah hints at as much. Though in his writings he essentially described the liberation of Fallujah as a senseless act, he failed mentioning that after U.S. forces chased out and killed the Islamists who had held the town hostage, they made the gruesome discovery of nearly two dozen torture chambers, awash in blood, some with bloated bodies and hacked off body parts dumped near them. Lt. Col. Gareth Brandl, a Marine said, “The face of Satan was here in Fallujah, and I’m absolutely convinced that that was true.”
Do I advocate violence against “peace activists”? No, of course not. But in the cases of the ones who are standing in the way of our success, spitting in soldiers faces and calling them murderers, they may just get what’s coming to them from the terrorists themselves.
This is a case of people who are crippled by a moral confusion that–if it takes a stronger hold in this country, will mean sharia law and the flag of the moongod flying over the Whitehouse. Is that what she really wants?
And no, Kathryn, Jack doesn’t write for me, because I, unlike you, have a brain, and I’m perfectly capable of doing research on my own. Why did I take on the Jack Idema cause in the first place? Because I believe we should be supporting our fighting forces. War isn’t about politics, it’s about WINNING. So let’s get out of their way and let them do their jobs and support the effort so they can come home with VICTORY.










August 27th, 2006 at 9:32 am
Good for you Cao,I’m sick of idiots like her,they will get more Americans killed than the terrorists,that is because these people live safely among us,and they aren’t being held accountable,they are the most self indulgent,morally bankrupt,self serving people on the planet.Ms.Cramer,it is high time you and the rest of your fellow travelers finally examined your useless and failed ideaologies once and for all.Where in history has a pacifist ever ended a war?they haven’t!Personally,I would love nothing more than you useless dregs to be turned over to enemies sense you are loyal to them instead of America.But,you are to damned cowardly to do that,hypocrites!You certainly are no help to the rest of us.:evil:
August 27th, 2006 at 10:19 am
She’s passive aggressive, from what I can see. She feigns innocence when there is a lot more behind the facade.
March 5th, 2007 at 3:42 pm
You are quite the fool. Do you not understand that the USA is NOT the international peacmaker. The terrorists are only acting like this because they want us to leave. And yes, Bush is the worst terrorist in the world. He has dragged this nation into a mess that we wouldnt be in if people like you didnt exist:evil:
March 5th, 2007 at 7:57 pm
I’ll just call you Neville Chamberlain. Look to history to see what I’m talking about, and thanks for the insults; terrorism is not going to go away because you make nice and sing ‘give peace a chance’.