3/29/2006

Look at a map; borders still exist!

By: Cao, Filed under: General , Open Borders & Immigration @ 7:32 pm

Two very noteworthy things to see/read by Michelle Malkin. First, at her blog, The American Flag Comes Second and second, her column at Jewish World Review entitled “Racism gets a Whitewash“.

Apologists are quick to argue that Latino supremacists are just a small fringe faction of the pro-illegal immigration movement (never mind that their ranks include former and current Hispanic politicians from L.A. mayor Antonio Villaraigosa to former California Democratic gubernatorial candidate Cruz Bustamante).

But you’ll never hear or read such forgiving caveats in the mainstream press’s hostile coverage of the pro-immigration enforcement members of the Minutemen Project—who are universally smeared as racists. For what? For peacefully demanding that our government enforce its laws and secure its borders.

Yes, borders. Last time I checked a map of North America, they still do exist.

Unless we give in and let the bullies and their appeasers whitewash those out of existence, too.

Tremendous numbers of people have turned out for these demonstrations, I find it frightening.

Heidi at Euphoric Reality is very eloquent in her piece I have something to say about “Amnesty”. I particularly like this part:

There are a lot of romantic illusions floating around today of attempting to nobly integrate millions of foreigners that don’t share our cultural values, nor want to be assimilated. They want all the rights and privileges of American citizenship, but without the cost, burden, duty, and responsibilities of the same.

When dealing with the screeching demands of millions of such aliens - half measures won’t work, I’m afraid. The problem is too far gone, too multi-faceted, too complex, and far too invasive. We need to utilize every means at our disposal to correct a problem that has been festering for a generation - before it splits our nation apart. If that sounds dire, it’s because I’m talking about nothing less than our national sovereignty. And frankly, I don’t care who is offended in our attempts to protect it.

Those of us with old-fashioned values, who hold our country dear and abhor the idea of Mexifornia, decidedly have taken a stand on this issue and more importantly, are willing to do something about it.

Later, Heidi posted “I have no words”

Cathouse Chat has some more words of wisdom about the picture of the upside-down American flag with the Mexican flag flying above it. Because you see, that picture of our flag flying upside down is from a demonstration of students….Whittier area students from Pioneer, California and Whittier high schools…who walked out of their classes to protest the proposed federal immigration bill of March 27, 2006. The protestors put up the Mexican flag over the American flag flying upside down at Montebello High. (Leo Jarzomb/Staff photo)

Shame on these kids! Shame on their parents, shame on their schools, and shame on their willful ignorance!These morons are supporting lawbreakers. They are aligning themselves with the destruction of their future, and they are encouraging the eventual downfall of their own country.

If I were in charge of these *gag* future voters *gag* they’d be studying the laws which have been broken, they’d be required to memorize proper flag etiquette, they’d be visiting VA hospitals to meet the veterans they’ve just sh*t on, they’d be interviewing naturalized citizens who came here legally, and then they’d be writing a thirty page essay about the blessings and privileges of American Citizenship which I would require them to end with a sincere apology for their ignorance and stupidity.

In so many ways I feel as though the world has gone mad.

Ogre has a few words to say: How Do You Deport 11 Million?

Ben Johnson at Frontpage Magazine has a great piece up: Who’s Behind the Immigration Rallies?

BIG CORPORATIONS AND THE FAR-LEFT HAVE ONE THING IN COMMON: both like to employ cheap illegal immigrants to do their heavy lifting.

The leftist media have tried to portray this weekend’s massive protests against House measures to curtail illegal immigration as the uprising of “The Other America”: forgotten, humble, hidden Hispanic members of the working poor simply demanding their “rights.” As events spanned from California to Detroit, Phoenix to Washington, D.C., the media kept up its anti-enforcement drumbeat. Although some have credited Latino DJs for the 500,000-strong illegal immigrant turnout in Los Angeles alone – and some credit is deserved – the real legwork was done by a more eclectic group of organizations: leftist labor unions, George Soros-funded agitators, Open Borders lobbyists, Roman Catholic clergy, and teachers unions.

I thought this reaked of Soros’ money and professional protesters. Just like the demonstration at the RNC during the race for the presidency, he’s pumping it up to make it appear as though it’s a really big show, and the media is helping gear this up to a fever pitch. Johnson’s piece is very detailed, I’ll get back to this some time later. Suffice it to say, I’m not surprised as to who and what is really behind all this, but I’m saddened to see yet another fubar during the Bush administration. Bush has made a deal with President Vincente Fox, and Fox’s goal is to get the Mexican people benefits courtesy of US tax dollars–including social security, even if they return to their own country.

Justin at Right on the Right feels as though a Race War is looming…

We cannot support the amnesty bill in the Senate. House Resolution 4437 is the path to take, which makes illegal immigration a felony. Critics complain that we’re criminalizing illegal immigration. Of course we are! It’s illegal! As Senator Sessions said today on the Senate floor, this bill is an amnesty bill no matter what the text says.

Please CLICK HERE to send a fax to your Senator!

Always On Watch has some observations with her usual calm intellectual intelligent style and finesse Guest Workers:

Over the past several days, we have seen on our television screens the masses of demonstrators objecting to the Congressional bill making illegal immigration a felony. Of those marching in our streets and demanding their rights—and waving the Mexican flag, no less—how many were themselves illegal immigrants?

On Saturday evening, I heard an immigration advocate say something like this:

“We don’t use the term illegal aliens any more.”

The talk-show host was duly chastened and changed his terminology to the more acceptable illegal immigrants.

Illegal alien—another term to add to the list of offensive and politically incorrect terms, never mind the definition of alien (Illegal is self-explanatory):

“1. An unnaturalized foreign resident of a country. Also called noncitizen.”

Of late, the various talk shows and President Bush frequently mention the immigration solution called “the guest-worker program.” When I was logging into my Yahoo email the other day, I happened across an article on the topic of such programs; the following is an excerpt:

“‘[The] historic role [of the guest-worker program] has been as a national emergency program,’ Cornell University economist Vernon Briggs wrote in a 2004 paper. ‘They are extraordinary policies to be used as a last resort — and then only as temporary measures.’

“In 1917, during World War I, an agreement was reached with Mexico to let in unskilled workers. During the program’s five-year life span, 77,000 Mexicans were admitted but fewer than half returned to Mexico. ‘The program spawned illegal immigration,’ Briggs said.

“A much larger exchange, the Bracero program, began in 1942, during World War II, and continued in varying forms through 1964. Some 4.6 million Mexicans came to the United States, with a peak of 439,000 in 1959.

“The program stipulated that guest workers were to get free housing, medical treatment, transportation and prevailing wages. The reality was often different.

“Avendano of the AFL-CIO said workers were underpaid or cheated out of wages, exposed to unsafe conditions, faced racial discrimination and were saddled with debt from recruiters and employers. Workers were unable to exercise their rights because the employer could have them deported. Under such conditions, she said, ‘Workers would rather be undocumented because they have full mobility.’

“Others argue that guest worker programs create an underclass of foreign workers and stigmatize some jobs associated with foreign labor….

“In 1995, the U.S. Commission on Immigration, headed by the late Rep. Barbara Jordan, D-Texas, reported to Congress its unanimous conclusion that an agriculture guest worker program ‘is not in the national interest and…would be a grievous mistake.’

“Sen. Dianne Feinstein (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif., at recent Senate hearings on the immigration bill, said the recent tide of illegal immigrants raises ‘the question of whether guest worker programs become magnets for more undocumented populations.’…”

Senator Edward Kennedy says that such problems will be avoided this time:

“‘[This latest proposal] will avoid those problems by streamlining the application process for employers and strengthening key protections for the workers.’”

Certainly allowing for guest workers to have job portability might help to prevent the potential for abuse caused by a guest worker’s having to be attached to one specific employer, a serious problem under Bracero. Nevertheless, such mobility can have its own problems, particularly if a guest worker would rather not work or if he desires to disappear within our borders.

According to the above-cited article, the 1986 amnesty for many illegal aliens produced the result that almost one million applications were accepted and, in effect, rewarded those who had illegally entered the United States. In addition, experts in immigration matters now concede that fraudulent documents were accepted in that 1986 process.

How interesting. We can’t have a war of attrition on terrorists, but we can run a war of attrition on the United States Economy, no problemo!! Here’s Kender on that:

We are at war, and we are in dire distress and in extreme danger to our life and property.

Twelve MILLION criminals have invaded our country, and are now demanding rewards for doing so.

Twelve million people have broken our laws, and are demanding that those laws be struck to give them special consideration.

Twelve million people have said, in one voice, “Your laws don’t matter.”

As I said, we are at war.

Jake and his lovely wife have some posts on this immigration subject that are also well worth the read:

Where’s My Sanctuary?

Think about it. My city has been offered up by its government as a place for those who would come here illegally to seek refuge and protection from the law. On March 10th I stood in a crowd of 100,000+ people jamming the streets of Chicago to demand rights for those who have broken the law to come, live, and work here, listening to Mayor Daley welcome them to my city.

Here’s my question: Where’s my sanctuary?

I am a citizen of this country. I pay taxes. I abide by the law. I am a hard-working resident of the city of Chicago. Shouldn’t my hometown be a place of refuge and protection for me?

What I get, instead, is a place where illegal aliens are given a voice they shouldn’t have and special treatment they haven’t even come close to earning. This country is supposed to be about equal opportunity in a lawful environment, yet my city is enthusiastically sending the message that, if you break the law to get here, we’ll treat you better than our citizens!

And Back Asswards

Unrestrained immigration has destroyed and “deskilled” most blue collar work rendering it unfit for most Americans to do. When I started in restaurants you had quite a bit of on the job training, no longer, now these are idjit jobs deskilled to punching a happy clown face on the cash register. This shows an almost gleeful hatred toward blue collar workers and an almost pathological misunderstanding of how a free market actually operates.

Has anyone other than me noticed the number of workers behind the counter at your national foodchains? This is an exceedingly bad thing. Instead of creating decent jobs in which people could learn valuable skills, we create robot jobs. Jobs that are bad for us on so many levels.

These are becoming caste jobs. When I started out it was common to start as a dishwasher, or whatever, and work your way up to managing or owning the establishment. This is almost unheard of these days. Caste jobs are jobs where you cannot realistically move up, and most don’t. I do know about my industry and I can tell you without hesitation the person who’s going to be a manager these days looks a lot like me, not the “brown” workers. And that’s just bullshi’ite!

Unrestrained immigration has artificially distorted wages downward, brutally so. Such that many jobs are no longer available to me. The laws being considered right now will not address this. Why? Because we are no longer willing to enforce our laws. remember IRCA? It had some excellent provisions that were never implemented.

Members of STACLU and TWA have done an excellent job covering what’s happening with this issue, from many vantage points. Where we’re headed with this if it continues unaddressed is a frightening reality we must face, and the sooner the better.

12 Responses to “Look at a map; borders still exist!”

  1. Howard Lededer Says:
    March 29th, 2006 at 9:46 pm

    Caos.

    I used to enjoy reading all the BS you put out; but lately this blog sucks.

    I dont know; maybe its not you, maybe its me.

    I mean I always realized you are full of ****. But now that the country realizezs that all you neo-cons are full of **** it has sort of made you irrelevent. Sort of like, I no longer need to point out your BS because no one is really buying it anymore.

    or maybe thats not it.

    Maybe you just were always boring. Its sort of like how my three year old acts when he gets a toy in his happy meal. At first he is all excited and happy to play with his new toy. but by the time he gets home he is bored with it and realizes that it is just a cheap piece of plastic ****.

    Probably a little bit of both.

  2. Cao Says:
    March 30th, 2006 at 5:11 am

    You’re a parent? That’s a frightening thought. :twisted: I just love it when I bother leftists, it’s a mission for me to get your designer panties twisted, and I do such a great job; I can tell by the reaction I get from you folks day in and day out. Actually there has been so much happening I’ve been having a difficult time keeping up with it all around my wonderful, busy and fulfilling life…

    But let’s take a look at an interview with Mariah Blake on public radio to examine where it is the “progressives” and “elitists” from our Ivy League Universities are coming from, ok?

    Let’s see….

    Dave: And…this is Media Talk here on the ideas network of Wisconsin public radio, I’m Dave Berkman.

    You wouldn’t happen to know Dave now, would you? I mean your IP address is Wisconsin, you probably listened to this show hanging on every leftist word.

    Most Americans get their news from what is often shorthanded as the MSM -the mainstream media. For an increasing minority, the nation’s 60 million evangelical Christians, the source for what many know about their communities, the nation and the world, are what my guest this hour, Mariah Blake, in her cover story in the current issue of Columbia Journalism Review, terms quote ‘an alternative universe of faith-based news’ endquote. And you can join us in our exploration of these faith-based media by dialing anywhere in or out of state: Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Illinois, everywhere in Wisconsin- 1-800-486-8655. In Milwaukee, though, please use the local number 227-2050, and thank you for joining us this evening, Mariah Blake.

    Mariah: Thank you for having me, Dave.

    Dave:     Let’s begin, Mariah Blake, with some of the basics of the alternative universe of Faith-Based News. First, the kinds of numbers of over the air tv and radio stations and cable networks where we’ll find this kind of news.

    Mariah: Well there’s basically–in terms of television–there’s very little in the way of local stations. It tends to be these massive networks that either reach across the country or reach across broad swoths of the country…

    Dave:     We have a full power UHF full-time Christian station here in Milwaukee that devotes quite a bit of its time from picking up national news.

    Mariah: Oh really? Ok. I’m not familiar with this- I don’t know if it’s one of these large national networks.

    Dave:     No, no, I’m saying it connects up with them. It’s a local group called Voice of Christian Youth and the stations I think the most powerful FM transmitter and a powerful UHF transmitter going to the call letters of WVCY.

    Mariah:     Ok, so there may be in your particular market there may actually may be a local station. In many cases these national or even international networks have very high-powered local transmitters and communities across the country. Sometimes they’re non commercial licenses which means they’re competing for space with the likes of NPR and public television. But there’s 6 national networks-at least 6 television networks and each of them reaches tens of millions of homes.

    Dave: Reaches and viewed are two very different things.

    Mariah:     Reaches and viewed are two very different things. And part of the issue with measuring the impact of these networks is the fact that– that most of them are not measured by Arbitron or Nielsen–or Nielsen at least, when it comes to television. But the ones that are rated, the largely viewed shows like the 700 club, about 1 million people view the 700 club every day. So…

    Dave:     That’s now broadcast –actually isn’t it on the ABC family channel?

    Mariah:     That is broadcast on the ABC Family channel. And that’s one of the interesting things that’s happening on television and on radio which is that a lot of the Christian news and talkshows are actually finding their way onto mainstream channels or stations. And it’s happening much more in the radio realm than it is in the television realm.

    Dave: As a matter of fact, we got a wonderful example of a station that’s widely listened to here in Milwaukee out of Chicago which is the CBS Infinity-owned all news station WBBM. And I suspect this is true of other all news stations in New York, Philly, LA and San Fran. It was carrying a daily commentary by perhaps the most influential force in evangelical politics and I’m speaking of Focus on the Family’s James Dobson. They billed it, though, as a straight family advice segment with no indication of who Dobson is. So what are we seeing this bleedover this spillover into the so-called mainstream media?

    Mariah:     I know that Dobson reaches 7 million listeners, which is enormous. That’s on par with some of the most influential rightwing talk radio hosts.

    Dave: BBM—WBBM has dropped him, I should note.

    Mariah: Ok, but yeah, I think he’s on—to give you an example-The USA radio network-which is one of these Christian radio networks- evangelical networks that has a conservative political slant to their news- they are carried by about 800 stations and more than half of those are what you’d call mainstream stations so they’re not Christian stations.

    Dave: There are about 1500 stations I understand in radio and about 100 generally low power UHF stations in tv that identify themselves as full time Christian.

    Mariah: Actually the number of radio stations is….well there’s over 2000 religious radio stations and almost all of them are conservative evangelical.

    Dave: Not too many owned and operated by the Unitarians.

    Mariah: (laughs) But um I would say that’s just a fraction of- in terms of television, where the vast majority of people are viewing Christian television, is on cable and on satellite stations. And that’s really how the Evangelical television networks have grown. They’ve added tens of millions to their distribution lists by getting onto these high tech broadcast platforms. And one of the most interesting things that I think has happened is there’s 3 direct broadcast satellites that are operating in this country. There’s direct tv, there’s ecostar, and many fewer people have probably heard of sky angel.

    Dave: And all of its transponders transmit Christian fare.

    Mariah: Yeah it’s 100%-It’s 36 channels of Christian programming and nothing else. So this means-and here’s one of the interesting things that is happening-these means that people now have the option of viewing exclusively conservative evangelical programming. So you have this universe-this alternative universe-which not only includes news, but now includes sitcoms, reality shows, documentaries, film, basically the entire spectrum of television entertainment–and it’s all delivered with this conservative Christian slant. So people don’t have to be exposed to anything that differs from their point of view.

    Dave: There are those that would contend, therefore, that the significance of faith-based news is often exaggerated, given that –no pun intended, it mainly preaches to and reaches the converted. Is that an accurate assessment?

    Mariah: Well I think that one of the most alarming trends in our culture today is sort of the Balkanization of information – so that you have people-people don’t have a common understanding ‘cause they don’t have a common source of information. It used to be that you had a relatively limited number of news sources and now you have more and more partisan news sources that are just giving people the information that already–that builds upon their existing ideas and stereotypes. It doesn’t challenge them. It doesn’t—and it-I guess it helps to—I think it creates a culture in which people are thinking less and questioning less.


    That’s right, we don’t live in CUBA or COMMUNIST CHINA, you dingbat!

    The **** from the MSM is utter and total BS! Take the war in Iraq for example, the ACLU getting a hold of the Abu Ghraib photographs, the reporting on Ilario Pantano and the government going after him which was a disgrace, the Koran flushing Newsweek fiasco, ad infinitum! And you people don’t offer any addition information to any discussion–other than to call us names and fill our email boxes with spam. Real nice. I don’t see a single thing in your comment above that gives me any additional facts, you’re an anti-Christian bigot just like your *** girlfriend here.


    Dave:     And reinforcing. And of course the other side of that is -do you end up when you talk about a journalism which tries to achieve this myth of objectivity as something more than a rather bland he said she said. I know, as a matter of fact I had your publisher on about two or three months ago on a pc had (head?) and talking about that concern.

    Mariah:     Boy, I don’t know exactly how to res(pond)—I guess the thing is that the delivery on these Christian networks I’m talking about the news now and..

    Dave: Yes.

    Mariah: and not the talk shows which inject a lot of opinion-but the delivery is actually –it tries to mimic this objective news –

    Dave: Visually, they are straight news casts.

    Mariah:     They appear very much to be straight news casts. But the information they deliver—the story selection is very different. There’s a real-they’re really focused on values issues which makes a lot of sense, but also, the facts are different–I think we’re all entitled to our own opinions, as I’m saying, we’re all entitled to our own opinions, but we’re not all entitled to our own facts.

    Explains a little about her articles now, doesn’t it? Apparently you people are of the opinion that certain “facts” do not apply and you are the ones who decide which ones are relevant, based completely on your leftist myopia and bias. You people are readers, supporters and contributors to the smirking chimp! And let’s not forget Alternet, and blatant fabrications and lies about Americans harvesting body parts from dead Iraqis. Come on. Who lives in a fantasyworld and manufactures propaganda, and who is searching for the truth? It certain isn’t people from your side of the aisle!

    The Soviet Union already taught us this lesson! At least those of us who were paying attention!

    hehehehe you people are uneducated twits and it’s too bad that you don’t like that you don’t have control over the flow of information anymore…this isn’t freakin’ communist china!

    It’s extremely apparent to me how the Ivy League schools are generating secular leftists to pump into our newsrooms and the propaganda they spew is highly suspect and irrelevant.

    Have a nice day, Madison.

  3. Right Wing Nut House Says:
    March 30th, 2006 at 10:02 am

    IMAGE IS SUBSTANCE IN IMMIGRATION DEBATE

    “Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame
    With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
    Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
    A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
    Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
    Mother of Exiles. From…

  4. Axe Says:
    March 30th, 2006 at 10:21 am

    In so many ways I feel as though the world has gone mad.

    It has.

  5. RottyPup Says:
    March 30th, 2006 at 10:47 am

    In so many ways I feel as though the world has gone mad.
    It has.

    Yup. We have the same problem over here in Britain … Though at least your immigrant community aren’t self-detonating in the name of Allah.
    Tell me, does everyone in the U.S. scream ‘racist’ at you whenever you complain about the number of incomers?

  6. Ogre Says:
    March 30th, 2006 at 11:36 am

    Yup, when they are cursing at you and calling you names, you know they’re at a loss for actual ideas and facts.

  7. California Conservative Says:
    March 30th, 2006 at 4:00 pm

    Is It ‘Amnesty’ or ‘Earned Citizenship’?

    Or neither. That’s our position.
    S.F. Chronicle reports: “The immigration debate roiling the Senate and the country often boils down to one charged word: amnesty.”
    It is brandished like a loaded gun by opponents of expanded legal i…

  8. SSgt Yatahey Says:
    March 31st, 2006 at 10:00 pm

    Cao sez … “You’re a parent? That’s a frightening thought.”

    ROTFLMAO… :mrgreen:

    Hmmm — Madison, huh? That name sounds very familiar on a Forum I frequent.

  9. Cao Says:
    April 1st, 2006 at 4:49 am

    Madison Wisconsin is that creep’s IP location; who knows where the idiot really is. That one is a recurrent troll, popping up occasionally with disrespectful and inappropriate comments.

  10. Fred Fry International Says:
    April 1st, 2006 at 11:49 am

    Fighting Illegal Immigration: Part II

    For starters, take a look at the stupidity that has been passed out of the US Senate

  11. Isrealcool Says:
    April 2nd, 2006 at 12:05 am

    Isn’t Reconquista the same as Zionism?

  12. Cao Says:
    July 29th, 2006 at 6:56 pm

    I’ve noticed that Isrealcool has left that **** of a comment on numerous sites, but I’ll entertain an answer to it, anyway.

    In a word: No.

    That’s ridiculous for several reasons. One is-Israel and Jordan were given that land by Britain at the urging of the UN.

    That isn’t in anyway relevant to Zionism, I suppose you bring the term “zionist” up because I have a soldier with the Bible in his hands in my blog design, hmmm? Is that all it takes for lefties to call people “zionists”? Do you even know what that term means? I doubt it.

    These people reject America in favor of the corrupt socialist Mexican state. They reject assimilation in favor of what their parents fled. We should be asking; why is Washington bending over backward for 12 million law breakers?

    Does this mean if enough Americans break the law its the right thing to do? Let the Revolution begin!

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