10 Responses to “Seven swore allegiance to Al Qaeda in Miami”

1. Jo Says:
   June 24th, 2006 at 8:35 am

   Odd, all are black and from what I’ve read, a few have spent time in prison, where we know a lot of people convert to islam. ah, the peaceful religion

2. Cao Says:
   June 24th, 2006 at 8:47 am

   CAIR put out a press release asking that nobody call them ‘muslims’.

3. meatbrain Says:
   June 24th, 2006 at 9:27 am

   “Naturally the Attorney General and the US Attorney’s office in Florida are going out of their way to emphasize that the indictment isn’t an accusation against any particular ‘group or religion.’

   And would you prefer, Cao, that everyone would see it as an indictment of a particular religion?

4. Cao Says:
   June 24th, 2006 at 9:38 am

   Oh I don’t know, meathead. Considering that they took a vow like your hero Jose Padilla did–to Al Qaida–I don’t suppose they’re affiliated with any groups as their skin color would suggest.

   Would you say this guy is a representative of any certain religion?

   

   Naaahhhh.

   

   Farrakhan telling the Jews: “Tell us you lost six million. Historians, scholars, scientist, they went to some of the death camps…it wasn’t six million, it wasn’t five million, it wasn’t four million, it wasn’t even three million…. Some of them say we’d be hard-pressed to get one and a half million.”

   Farrakhan :”Everybody talks about what Hitler did to you. What did you do to Hitler?

   Farrakhan :”You wonder why I call it Jew-nited Nations…Jew York City…Jew-niversity. Because you control it.”

   Farrakhan :”I want to be one of the flame-throwers of God, break white folks’ backs. I want to give you hell all the way to your graves. I ain’t scared to die and I’m ready to kill.”

   Farrakhan :”You’re lucky you just got words out of me and I didn’t give you the bum’s rush and black-boot stomp the hell out of you.”

   Farrakhan :”I love Colin Ferguson, who killed all those white folks on the Long Island train. God spoke to Colin Ferguson and said, ‘catch the train, Colin, catch the train.’”

   Farrakhan : “The Pope is not the vicar of Christ. The Pope is a representative of the Anti-Christ.”

   Farrakhan : said this in South Africa: “I say give ‘em [whites] 24 hours to get out of town. If they don’t, kill everyone white in sight. Kill the men, kill the women, kill the children, kill the blind, kill the crippled. God damn it, kill them all.”

   Farrakhan :”We want you to know white people, we know how to strike you in the pocketbook.”

   Farrakhan :The Nation of Islam is consistently anti-American. This is why Mahmoud Abdul-Rouf would not stand during the National Anthem at Denver Nuggets’ basketball games. According to him, the United States’ flag symbolized only “oppression and tyranny.”

   Farrakhan and Colonel Qaddafi reached an agreement to launch a campaign to exert black and Muslim influence in the upcoming U.S. elections can only be viewed as a cynical covenant between two haters. With the Nation of Islam leading the effort, Colonel Qaddafi said that blacks, Arabs, Muslims and native Americans will exercise their political muscle!

   Farrakhan :Black Muslims consider themselves in a perpetual “jihad” or holy war against the Satanic whiterace.

   Farrakhan :As a result of this doctrine, members of the Nation of Islam call whites “white devils,” “blue-eyed devils,” and “sub-humans.”

   Batiste said he wanted to “kill all the devils that we can,” you think that’s a coincidence or something?

   One other thing which I think is interesting here, meathead.

   they were led by an eccentric man who called himself Brother Nazi and Prince Manna.

   You DO know that Farrakhan’s “Nation of Islam” are in fact black nazis?

   Fred Siegel wrote about an intereseting and chilling 1995 incident in the Washington Post (reference: Kathryn Jean Lopez at NRO):

   Sharpton and his National Action Network turned a dispute between a Jewish tenant who rented the space for his store (Freddy’s) from a black church and his black subtenant into a racial hailstorm. Sharpton set up pickets outside the store, led by his lieutenant in the National Action Network, Morris Powell.

   Powell was an intimidating figure to many on 125th Street. An escaped mental patient who had thrice been accused of attempted murder, he had long threatened that “there will be war” against white merchants and “this street will burn.” His protesters, sometimes joined by Sharpton, shouted racial epithets like “Jew ********” and “the bloodsucking Jews,” while referring to other whites as “crackers” and black customers as “traitors.”

   One of the protesters, a man who called himself “Shabazz,” forced his way into the store shouting, “I will be back to burn the Jew store down.” He didn’t, but a man named Abubunde Mulocko did.

   Apparently angered by the mistaken assumption that the store had hired Hispanics instead of blacks, Mulocko, a man with a long criminal record, his “paranoia goosed by the protests,” burned the store down.

   Armed with a .38, he shot three whites and a Pakistani in cold blood (he had mistaken the light-skinned Pakistani for a Jew) and then set the fire that killed five Hispanics, one Guyanese and one black, the security guard who the protesters had taunted as a “cracker lover.”

   A compliant press never asked Sharpton tough questions in the wake of the massacre. He denied that he knew what his own lieutenant was up to. Instead, having thoroughly intimidated people in Harlem who might criticize him, he was allowed to resume his pose as a “civil-rights leader.”

   I will never look at Al Sharpton as a “civil rights” leader ever again. What’s pulling into view is an extremely frightening picture of where these three stand: Farakhan. Sharpton. Karenga.

   Kwanzaa is about “de-whiticizing” Christmas. Did you know that? I didn’t.

   The inventor of Kwanzaa wasn’t mentioned in the December 24, 1971, NYT article announcing its emergence, and this is the reason why: this man had founded an organization that in its short history tortured and murdered blacks in ways of which the Ku Klux Klan could only fantasize.

   It was in newspaper articles like that, repeated in papers all over the country, that the tradition of Kwanzaa began. It is a tradition not out of Africa but out of Orwell. Both history and language have been bent to serve a political goal. When that New York Times article appeared, Ron Karenga’s crimes were still recent events. If the reporter had bothered to do any research into the background of the Kwanzaa founder, he might have learned about Karenga’s trial earlier that year on charges of torturing two women who were members of US (United Slaves), a black nationalist cult he had founded.

   In other words, black nazis.

   A May 14, 1971, article in the Los Angeles Times described the testimony of one of them: “Deborah Jones, who once was given the Swahili title of an African queen, said she and Gail Davis were whipped with an electrical cord and beaten with a karate baton after being ordered to remove their clothes. She testified that a hot soldering iron was placed in Miss Davis’ mouth and placed against Miss Davis’ face and that one of her own big toes was tightened in a vise. Karenga, head of US, also put detergent and running hoses in their mouths, she said.”

   This sounds like Saddam Hussein-style torture to me. Or pick any other murderous socialist psychopath. Che Guevara. Stalin. Saddam’s sons. The Baathist terrorists. Al Qaeda. Is it any wonder that they lamented at the Million More March that “Father Saddam cries in prison”?

5. Conservative Culture » 7 Plot Treason - Should be firing squad Says:
   June 24th, 2006 at 10:05 am

   […] Cao’s Blog gives some additional and important information. “They did not believe the U.S. government had legal authority over them,” Pistole said. “They were separatists.” […]

6. meatbrain Says:
   June 24th, 2006 at 10:10 am

   Louis Farrakhan is the leader of Nation of Islam. Is there evidence that the seven men arrested in Miami were members of that group? The newspaper article you cite above provides no such indication.

   And you seem reluctant to actually answer the question. Do you, Cao, want these arrests to be seen as an indictment of a particular religion? (That’s answerable with a simple yes or no, by the way.)

7. Cao Says:
   June 24th, 2006 at 10:22 am

   I answered the question, meathead. The fact that you are such a rigid linear thinker and can’t recognize things for what they are isn’t my problem.

   The language is exactly the same and very telling, lol…you think the nation of Islam sides with the US or Saddam Hussein when they say ‘Father Saddam cries in prison’?…Saddam was raised by his Uncle who was a nazi…and here is some of the evidence linking Saddam with Al Q-so this all fits very neatly together in my opinion. Salmon Pak, Al Qaeda…do I have to draw you a picture?

   I’m so sorry that you can’t see what’s right in front of you, but that’s why you’re a meathead.

8. meatbrain Says:
   June 24th, 2006 at 12:08 pm

   “I answered the question, meathead.”

   False. You made a lot of noise about Louis Farrakhan and Kwanzaa — neither of which have any apparent connection to the seven arrested in Miami — without ever answering the question. It’s instructive to note that you won’t answer simple questions, but are quite willing to lie about your own evasions.

   Is there evidence that the seven men arrested in Miami were members of the Nation of Islam? The newspaper article you cite above provides no such indication.

   Do you, Cao, want these arrests to be seen as an indictment of a particular religion? (That’s answerable with a simple yes or no, by the way.)

9. Cao Says:
   June 24th, 2006 at 12:21 pm

   Meathead, why on earth in meatheadworld do I have to prove anything?

   You put words in my mouth, you tell me what I mean, you know my opinion better than I know it myself, so what’s the point of my answering you?

   I’ve stated my opinion, and if you don’t like it, that’s too bad. I find myself constantly repeating myself with you, but that’s because you have a problem listening.

   Your views are more important than everyone else’s and if I want to know my opinion I should just ask you because you have all the answers.

   Well perhaps in this instance you do not.

   Perhaps there are things here which the media has purposely left out that we have a right to know. I’m doing what they call ’supposition’. I am ’supposing’. I am ‘connecting the dots’, which you are unable to do. Or perhaps UNWILLING to do, which is a real flaw in your character. I have no idea how you find your keys in the morning or how you find the bathroom without a map and specific instructions on how to unzip your fly.

   Responding to you is a complete waste of my time.

   You should go interview the guards at the prisons where these men were held. Interview their families and neighbors, and find out if they participated in the Million More March and what reading material is strewn about their living quarters. As far as I’m concerned, there is enough evidence here to make a person wonder, and I don’t have to prove anything to you; this is my opinion; and I am basing it on things Farrakhan has said in comparison to what the leader of this group said. They’re using identical language.

   But if I say the sky is blue, you say it’s black, just so you can argue with me, so there is absolutely no point to this.

10. Cao Says:
    June 26th, 2006 at 6:15 am

    Just for the sake of conversation, and the fact that I went over and visited meathead over at his little lavendar fantasyworld and shared some of what he apparently doesn’t know about the Nation of Islam and its ideological connecton with Al Qaeda and terrorism, I thought I would refer to the reason why I’m referring to the Nation of Islam in direct corrolation to the Miami 7, and the rhetoric where this guy Battiste, their leader, called himself ‘brother nazi’, etc.

    Take a look at this over at sweetness and light.
    
    The Moorish Science Temple of America, which is the weird group that these men belonged to, is not what some people like this babe Aminah Beverly McCloud, at DePaul University alleges. She even goes so far as to say they’re ‘not muslims’.

    Aminah Beverly McCloud, professor of Islamic studies at DePaul University, said the theology of the Moorish Science Temple of America is a “kind of re-appropriation of Christianity.”

    “They are not Muslims,” she said. “They trace their black heritage to Morocco. This is not an Islamic faith. Over half their book, The Holy Quran of the Moorish Science Temple of America, is devoted to the life and works of Jesus.”

    Re-appropriation of Christianity? Puhleez! The Quran of the Moorish Science Temple of America depicts Jesus as a prophet of Allah. AND…it says the following in their ‘holy’ texts:

    We, as a clean and pure nation descended from the inhabitants of Africa, do not desire to amalgamate or marry into the families of the pale skin nations of Europe. Neither serve the gods of their religion, because our forefathers are the true and divine founders of the first religious creed, for the redemption and salvation of mankind on earth.

    Wherefore we are returning the Church and Christianity back to the European Nations, as it was prepared by their forefathers for their earthly salvation.

    While we, the Moorish Americans are returning to Islam, which was founded by our forefathers for our earthly and divine salvation.

    The other point that needs to be made is this Moorish Science Temple of America is that it has spawned other weird sects like the Nation of Islam AND it should be pointed out that- this lady, Aminah Beverly McCloud from DePaul– who teaches in their Islamic World Studies program– who claimed that the Moorish Science Temple of America teaches about Christ (yeah riiiight)-is a follower of Louis Farrakhan AND…is also a speaker with The Muslim Students Association (MSA), which is a key lobbying organization for the Wahhabi sect of Islam.

    And for guys like meathead who probably don’t know what the Wahhabi sect of Islam is–it’s that weird sect of Islam that Bin Laden belongs to-that defines the Wahhabi sect of Islam the only true Islam–so all the other sects are then apostates; this is their religious justification for their murderous rampages; nobody but a Wahhabi is a true muslim. This is why Al Qaeda is considered an ‘extremist’ religious sect; and as I mentioned before, and the media didn’t report it; there was a huge conference in Jordan where 170 scholars from the 8 sects of Islam came together to talk about terrorism and they denounced Bin Laden and Al Qaeda.

    As a result of that meeting, the 170 Islamic scholars in attendance issued a statement. The importance of that statement is twofold; 1) recognized Islamic leaders condemn and distance Islam as a religion and themselves from the atrocities committed by Political Islamists, and 2) only religious scholars from the eight recognised Islamic Schools of Jurisprudence may issue fatwas or binding religious rulings. This deprives statements made by Osama Bin Laden of any religious legitimacy.

    So…the Nation of Islam is ideologically connected with Al Qaeda, there is no doubt; and Al Qaeda and Bin Laden’s ideology have been denounced by Islam’s religious scholars. Which I find very interesting because–there are professors in our universities today who are teaching this twisted terrorist ideology in Middle Eastern studies programs. Take this professor Aminah Beverly McCloud at DePaul, for example.

    You can read a very revealing piece on this DePaul professor McCloud and the twisted ideology she teaches here.

    But apart from what that kook is saying about the Moorish Science Temple of America, you have reality.

    Noble Drew Ali (neé Timothy Drew, the founder) and his Moorish Science Temple of America was the progenitor of several bizarre Black Muslim sects, including Louis Farrakhan’s Nation Of Islam.

    In fact, Moorish Science was the religion of choice for another al Qaeda fan, Clement Rodney Hampton-Ell — aka Dr. Rashid.

    Dr. Rashid was convicted for his part in planning to blow up bridges and tunnels and landmarks around New York City.

    The plot was ambitious. The cell wanted to create a “Day of Terror,” with a series of near-simultaneous bombings across New York City. At various stages, the plot looked at tunnels, federal buildings, courthouses and the United Nations as targets. The final list was narrowed down to five, including the U.N., the Holland Tunnel, the Lincoln Tunnel, the George Washington Bridge and the Manhattan Federal Building, which housed the FBI’s New York offices. It would be a highly synchronized attack, a style now considered an al Qaeda trademark.

    Sound familiar?

    Dr. Rashid is currently serving a 35 year sentence at the Federal Supermax Prison in Florence, Colorado.

    But I guess The Times, meathead, and leftist idiots can’t handle the truth and would prefer to consider the Moorish Science Temple of America precisely what the media has stupidly depicted them as; swallowing lies from people like McCloud, and would consider Rashid along with the Miami 7 - just wayward harmless kooks. Oh and let’s remain politically correct-and not depict them as any particular race or part of any religious group.

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