7/8/2006
Arizona psych professor threatens life of 2-year old child
Again I have to wonder about the mental state of our friends on the lefthand side of the sphere when people publish comments that move from insults to threats against children. Protein Wisdom’s site is down, but the comments have been preserved. Let’s see them expand their DNS attack to all the blogs who will share this information with their readers. This is stuff you need to know: the moonbat hysteria doesn’t end with publishing personal information…it also constitutes threats against our children.
You will see them below, compliments of Six Meat Buffet.
Apparently having lost all sense of decorum and good taste, University of Arizona psychology professor Deb Frisch is suggesting that Protein Wisdom’s Jeff Goldstein’s 2-year-old son is murdered and sexually abused.
The leftists are closing in around Frisch and are launching two simulataneous DNS attacks on Jeff’s website. (This I’m assuming because I’ve never heard of a leftist site go down because of a DDOS or DNS attack; it’s always been The Jawa report…or Michelle Malkin…) I mean, it’s a deduction on my part; in my opinion, this psycho’s website still is up, and Jeff’s isn’t, and she’s already accusing him of all kinds of wild things. 48 hours is a long time in the blogosphere and there hasn’t been much noise from the lefthand side of the tracks on this one, I wonder why.
You can find more here.
From Six Meat Buffet, here’s a collection of this psychotic woman’s comments:
[…] as I said elsewhere, if I woke up tomorrow and learned that someone else had shot you and your “tyke” it wouldn’t slow me down one iota. You aren’t “human” to me.
[…]
So if you could just tell me the AGE and SEX of your “tyke,” I’d be stoked!
Thanx!
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Ooh. Two year old boy. Sounds hot. You live in Colorado, I see. Hope no one Jon-Benets your baby.
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I reiterate: If some nutcase kidnapped your child tomorrow and did to her what was done to your fellow Coloradan, Jon-Benet Ramsey, I wouldn’t give a damn.
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Give your pathetic progeny (I sure hope that mofo got good genes from his mama!) a big fat tongue-filled kiss from me! LOTS AND LOTS OF SALIVA from Auntie MOONBAT, if you don’t mind!
Somehow, Jeffy boy, I think you get off on the possibility of Frenching your pathetic progeny, even if it is a boy. You seem like a VERY, VERY sick mofo to me, bro.
Coincidentally (or not) I just noticed she has a piece up over at Counterpunch called “A Psychologist’s Defense of Ward Churchill”. These people are, as Michelle Malkin put it, “Unhinged”.
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Update Here is a post on the blog of University of Arizona professor Deb Frisch (Michelle Malkin is confirming)
white flag
I wrote some inflammatory comments at a blog by a guy named Jeff Goldstein called protein wisdom that infuriated many bloggers and commenters. Many of these bloggers emailed my boss at the University of Arizona to tell on me.
In hindsight, the things I wrote were over the line of nastiness. I apologize to Mr. Goldstein.
I have resigned from the University of Arizona so there is no need for other enraged people to write to administrators there.
Looky who’s the victim. What a surprise. And now she’s denying that she said this stuff. Looks as though her DNS attack buddies are doing her a favor.
UPDATE: More from Deb Frisch - the victim- who now denies making the French-kissing comments. Must have had a reality check:
I have been receiving emails alluding to the fact that I got fired. I was not fired. I resigned. I was not pressured to resign. I just sent my boss an email explaining what was happening and told him I thought it was best for all involved if I resigned.
Protein Wisdom has been down since this all started so it is not possible to see all the comments and everything that led up to this. People are posting snippets of what I posted that have been embellished with references to french kissing and other things I didn’t say.
When and if protein wisdom comes on line again, it will be hard to tell what Jeff added or deleted to the transcript.
I have been trying to get in touch with Pajamas Media to discuss some of my concerns about what has been published at Black Five about this issue. I feel threatened by some of the comments there.
If someone at pajamas media or better yet, froggy from Black Five, could email me, that would be great.
How convenient. Someone must be coaching her through this…it sounds much too sensible. Perhaps Protein Wisdom’s being ‘down’ has given her a moment to cool off. According to Kit at Euphoric Reality, the update to her previous “White Flag” post was posted on her site around 1230 on Saturday.
UPDATE: Deb Frisch has amended her “white flag” blog entry. Take what she has with a block of salt until there is confirmation of what she’s saying. She’s already trying to twist things around, planting seeds of doubt out there about Goldstein’s website and his changing her comments while it’s down, there are even insinuations out there that he took his website down himself. Anyone have a doubt about DNS attacks and how they can knock you offline? As Kender said a little bit ago, ask RUSTY!
No one has formally accepted my resignation yet. I’ve just submitted it. I understand there are many, many people out there who will want to know how the University of Arizona responds to my offer to give up my temporary gig teaching psychology next year.
Update: Protein Wisdom is back up…and I was going through the comments Jeff posted from the moonbat Frisch here. Looks like she got what she was asking for here:
Still waiting for some words of wisdom (NOT!) from you, Jeffy boy!
Your little boot-lickers have had their say. What say you, king dingbat?!
Wanna escalate this game. Fine wit me.
Bring it on, hombre.
Bring it on.
Update: Michelle Malkin confirmed Frisch tendered her resignation and is now going back to Oregon.
Question: Dan Riehl points out that she attended a counter terrorism conference with the FBI! Are only moonbats allowed in the Counterterrorism business these days? Notice that Frisch participated in an FBI Counterterrorism conference in 2002. This should send alarms through the military intelligence community!
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July 8th, 2006 at 11:19 am
Its interesting.
Political views for leftests are points of identity.
This explains why they cannot debate without turning beet red and going insane. You are challenging their *identity*
Ideas for the left are positions on a battle field. Premises, conclusions, sources are so many inconveniences.
Worse, they are perfectly thrilled with the Michael Moore’s of the world. So what if they lie they are still telling the truth!
Whats scary is that this phenomena is so wide spread. (The movie “The Night of the living dead” comes to mind”)
Oh and that Arizona Prof should have been fired yesterday.
July 8th, 2006 at 11:40 am
WOW, Moonbattery run wild! I have a bunch of them camped on this post for some reason….! Thank you, Constantine! I wonder what the fascination is…the poor thing created her own mess, and now she’s threatening to contact the FBI, report “Pajamas Media” and a bunch of other bologna.
What’s interesting to me is I absolutely hear crickets chirping on the lefty blogs about this. It’s a non-event. They don’t recognize or acknowledge that it’s happened. Nothing from the Kos Kids…nothing…anywhere…
July 8th, 2006 at 12:19 pm
Sounds like this woman needs psychiatric help. To try to spin this into an attack on all who hold ‘leftwing’ views is wrong though.
July 8th, 2006 at 12:26 pm
This is (or WAS) a TEACHER at Arizona University. And…It’s an observation, it’s not ’spin‘. Come to think of it…it’s troubling to me that you would say such a thing. Is it a personality trait of people like her to NOT accept responsibility for their actions and then perfectly acceptable for people to turn a blind eye to it? You make it sound as though it’s ok to excuse her because she’s ‘disturbed’ so she won’t be held accountable. Is that right? Like Tookie Williams and the Korean family he murdered? Leftists said he was ‘rehabilitated’ but he never once apologized for murdering that family. Excuse the behavior, and that’s it? Like Bill Clinton holding a party on the Whitehouse lawn after being impeached? I’d like to see them hold their own to task, that’s all I’m saying. The point that Ace makes here makes sense:
Let’s see if his prediction turns out to be accurate….then it will be FACT.
July 8th, 2006 at 1:53 pm
Left wing Cliff-Dwelling Professor Threatens Conservative Blogger’s Child
I awoke this morning to a particualrly nasty piece of information. This Leftwing Cliff-Dwelling University of Arizona Professor left some unbelievably disgusting comments on Protien Wisdom’s Blog. This was WAY over the line folks and she deserves…
July 8th, 2006 at 2:45 pm
Debra Fischer is a perfect example of why the psychology field really needs to police itself.
July 8th, 2006 at 2:55 pm
Offensive Comments, the Internet and Personal Responsibility
This is one of them.A (now) former professor at the University of Arizona apparently posted some truly vicious and horrible comments at Protein Wisdom (not always SFW), in resp
July 8th, 2006 at 2:56 pm
She’s a perfect example why they DON’T.
July 8th, 2006 at 6:01 pm
Cao, I just read the discourse on Michelle Malkin’s site. Ye, Gads, I had no idea Protein Wisdom was going through that. How horrible.
This is what gets me: how come there aren’t better internet laws? I’ve had people make disgusting parody sites about me, make death threats, write perverse things and even post directions to my house and my address on MapQuest. Thankfully it was my old address at Bragg, but why are the laws so lax? These are criminal offenses. The police tell me there’s nothing they can do.
Why? In this case, Protein knew people in high places. What’s a little girl like ME to do in such cases? I think this should be the next big endeavor of the Congress, to make cyberspace safe. It is not as of now.
I hope the sicko professor gets jail time.
July 8th, 2006 at 6:04 pm
Amy, my concern is why they’re not interested in going after the people who are breaking the law. I have been on the receiving end of quite a bit of it myself. They posted all kinds of personal information about me and laughed about it, sitting behind an anonymous blog. Blogger and pyra wouldn’t adhere to their own rules, neither would Google…and I couldn’t get a lawyer to help me go after them.
I hope this professor gets at least that, Amy. I think she needs mental help; but she shouldn’t be left to roam free and put things like that in print–it’s beyond disgusting.
As I said to someone recently…”rude” is when you use the wrong fork when you’re eating your salad at the dinnertable. This takes things to a totally different level. It’s vicious, sick, and threatening.
Thanks for coming by, Amy!
July 8th, 2006 at 6:21 pm
I think sometimes we here in America have forgotten what it is to take certain matters into our own hands.We can’t rely on the government for everything,sometimes they just make matters worse in my opipion.I know Mr.Goldstein,being a man,had a tight rope to walk,but,what was his wife’s excuse?This was her category,female vs.Female,she stood around twiddling her thumbs in panic seems to me,what was she doing?if this ****** professor said what she did about my two year old,she would’ve gotten an old school butt kicking!That is what gets these folks attention,not calling law enforcement and having to go through all that Beaurocratic BS they put you through.Amy,somethings like this have to be handled the old school route,and to me this is one of those situations.Talk is cheap!:mad::evil:
July 9th, 2006 at 10:26 am
Cao,
You’re 100% right. The perps are safe, but they don’t have to be. In this case, the professor was stupid enough not to have an alias or hide behind anonymity. That’s very unusual for liberals. We conservatives usually get into blogging bright-eyed and bushy-tailed, not realizing we should keep more personal info to ourselves. We use our real names and give some background… because we’re proud of who we are and what we believe in.
The issue is that even the anonymous types are not truly anonymous. I had one particularly bad stalker so I contacted his service provider (he used anonymziers but I knew enough about him to find his blog and go from there). They wouldn’t help at all. Period. Nor did they think anything less than a physical death threat warranted any action. There should be an entire wing of the police force dedicated to Internet law. These perps are not as anonymous as we might think, IF the IPs and law enforcement would go after them. It’s just not taken seriously.
And what the hell about these programs that allow people to hide behind anonymity? Why can your or my blog not totally block any anonymizer? If they have the right to surf or worse yet e-mail anonymously, why can we not have the right to block those programs? Someone is behind the power curve here.
And there needs to be more privacy rights for the individual. One hippie creep recently pulled up a ton of archives that I deleted with personal info because there’s a service that saves all your archives/entries, even if YOU delete them. Who the hell gives them the right to store my past entries that I deleted so others can look at it? If that isn’t enough, my server (Dream Host) apparently displays all your personal info, if you know here to go, including address and phone numbers, all but credit card info. There are some liberal creeps so proficient in being deceitful that they know just how to get whatever info on you they want. It’s pretty scary.
Same problem here, lawyers won’t go after these perverts. If they only recognized the money they could make if they went after Internet perps. I really think Congress needs to address this as a safety issue and empower the average user from being stalked or exposed. And there needs to be laws that fascinate prosecution of these perverts.
I am very glad to see this professor got what she deserves. Does anyone know why Protein Wisdom is down? I’m assuming it’s to protect the child. I think I’d close my blog if something like this happened.
July 9th, 2006 at 10:32 am
Lisa, but HOW do we take matters into our own hands? We’re like the American soldier: we don’t hide who we are, we’re out in the open, we take hits and return fire, but we’re honorable. We’re fighting Jihadists of the blogosphere who hide behind disguises and use women and children as human shields. How exactly do you take matters into your own hands?
My husband has volunteered to pay some of these creeps a personal visit, but we have no idea who they are or where they are.
I did pull a Michelle Malkin and Unhinged, which was very successful. This Iranian communist from Canada has been stalking me for 2 years and I did extensive research and found his photographs, school info and so on on a public site. I did screen captures and posted all the info on my blog warning people of him. He said if I agreed to take the stuff down he’d leave me alone, and he has. If I hear from him again, I’m reporting him to the DOD, which has a link on its website to check out suspicious characters. Iranian communist? Pretty suspicious.
but he wasn’t smart enough to be as anonymous as most of these scums. So what exactly do we do if we don’t know a Michelle Malkin to help out?
July 9th, 2006 at 10:32 am
I was at Protein Wisdom this morning, it’s back up, and contrary to what that crafty leftist said, all of her comments are there just as they were originally; Jeff didn’t alter a single thing.
I agree wholeheartedly, Amy, there is something frightening about how the laws which exist are ignored, how they’re not willing to go after the perpetrators of online threats and harrassment. I went to the police about one individual, and they told me to shut my blog down! I looked at them like they were crazy and said, “no, I’m not going to do that! Because that’s exactly what they want!” That would be, in short, rewarding that threatening harrassing behavior.
July 9th, 2006 at 1:18 pm
Meet Deborah Frisch, aka Professor Cyberstalker
Protein Wisdom was recently attacked by a most alarming cybertroll, who turned out to be a professor at the Arizona university, Deborah Frisch, who also maintain her own blog and has quite a record of stalking other people’s blogs as well. And the me…
July 10th, 2006 at 12:08 pm
Amy,this is my point,was law enforcement able to help Little Jessica Lunsford?Samantha Mathis?what about numerous other innocent children?I’m going to relay a story to you that my grandma was telling me last night from her childhood.My family being native Southerners were sharecroppers or either cooked for rich white people,very very few of these owned the land,and if they did the rich whites would take it because most of our people couldn’t read or write(this is an earlier version of Kelo)but,it was two stories she gave she me,one was personal and the other involved a childhood friend.There was this old man who also lived on this white man’s place,and he was dirty as all get out.He was married,had a bunch of kids,including three daughters.His wife was the typical sad sack wife of those men,all they were good for was having babies to work the land and cook,while their husbands frequented cathouses and chased young teenage girls.Now,remember,these two that I’m telling you about would be in jail in the twenty first century doing this sort of stuff.Anyway this man according to what my grandmother told me,used to give try and give them money,but,she and her friends would refuse,because of how they were taught.He was also bad about fondling them as well,my grandmother told her mother my great -grandmother about what this man was up to.My great-grandmother read him the riot act about it and told him if she ever heard of him doing this dispicable behavior again,she would tell my grandmother’s step father.My great-grandmother knew that law enforcement back then was out of the question,because she was well aware that they wouldn’t do anything about this,and that man after this threat came across to him tried to make excuses about being drunk and all that,which was a lie,but,he never did that again,and even went so far as to accuse my grandmother of being a “trouble maker”.Another terrible characteristic of predators,they like to blame others for their bad behavior.Mind you my grandmother was so slouch,she even threatened to cut this man if she had to do it herself,some of the women in my family were just as bad as any man could be with a knife,or a gun.All of them weren’t like sheep!That man also knew that my great-granddady would’ve jacked him up if he had a heard about this too.The second story involved in another childhood friend of hers.His father was a peeping Tom,and some of the young teenage girls would undress for the night,to go to bed and this assclown would be peeping in on them as they undressed.They mentioned it to some of their male relatives and other male friends,and these guys went to investigate to see if this accusation indeed was real,so one night they decided to watch this man,and lo and behold he was caught dead to rights being voyeurisric.Well,apparently on the place they had their own version of the Sopranos there and these guys were it.They began hatching a plan to put a stop to his shenanigans and perversity,by bring a white bed sheet and severqal of them threw it over his sorry *** and they threatened to toss him in the Tennessee River with the rest of the fishes,they put the fear of God into this asslcown so he cried,begged,pleaded,for a long time promising never to do this again,because he was under the impression that it was probably white folks behind this,because they were notorious for doing things like that here in the South back then,and that man cleaned up his act after he was threatened with a Lucky Luciano type of killing he didn’t do that peeping om stuff anymore.This worked,what we’ve seen from the justice system for the last few years now,thanks to screwball lefty jurors,judges,and some of thes other modern law officers,is damnable and maddening!Your husband is a fine man,I thank him and you for all that you all do for this great nation of ours,and I know your husband being the protector of his home,wouldn’t not ******* yahoo pedophile don’t care if female or male,would allow any of his four kids to be harmed.I know that you love your kids,but,I was showing you that if this was done more often in the modern era,we wouldn’t have to worry about predators getting let out of jail,knowing that they can’t be rehabed and they prey on little children and girls into their early teens.Sopranos’s brand of justice works better for us as law abiding citizens,our justice system now is broken,it doesn’t help victims by and large now,it only helps criminals.
July 15th, 2006 at 9:21 pm
I fully support Deb Frisch… she didn’t go far enough. DCFS should be called on all conservatives as they present a clear and present danger to children.
Conservatives are the last vestige of a social illness that needs to be excised from society. The right-wing Taliban needs to be the ones in cages in Cuba, not the freedom fighting Muslims.
January 6th, 2007 at 7:50 pm
Wow, Mr. A. How long have you had this deep-rooted utter hatred for freedom?
January 7th, 2007 at 12:21 am
The oldies, as they say, are goodies. You, Mr.America, prove this — Six months on, and the complete gibberish you spout is still capable of annoying me.
… So Deb Frisch ‘didn’t go far enough’, huh? Well, damn, but if cracking ‘jokes’ about molesting other people’s children isn’t extreme enough for you, Mr. A., then what would satisfy your somewhat bizarre appetite for suffering among the Progressively-Challenged Kindergarten Community? Do tell.
‘Right-wing Taliban’. Yup. You got us there, Mr. A. Why, there’s not a day goes by when American women aren’t flogged in the street for failing to wear their burkas. Then, of course, there’re all the US schoolteachers being executed for attempting to educate girls, the beheadings in football stadiums across America, the bodies dangling from cranes, the — Oh, but why should I even bother. The full horror of BushHitler’s reign is obvious enough.’Freedom fighting Muslims’ — Well, damn, but where to begin? Perhaps by pointing out that the last time a well-intentioned moron mistook off-the-scale fascism for ‘freedom-fighting’, he was stepping off a plane while announcing, ‘I have in my hand a piece of paper …’
January 7th, 2007 at 7:11 pm
heh. What a convoluted sense of unreality you have there. Deb Frisch threatens a child, but it’s not her fault, it’s ours?
And how are we a ‘threat to children’? By raising them ourselves? Homeschooling? By teaching them abstainance? The ten commandments? Do not steal, do not murder, love thy neighbor as thyself? To be good moral citizens and to walk little old ladies across the street? Is it the boy scouts you have a problem with, or is it Sunday School? Or puppy dogs?
So. It’s the evil rightwing that should be at Gitmo, heh? You should be escorted off by the men in white coats.