12/25/2006
Let the Holy Spirit teach
My dad is the spiritual head of our family, as God intended.
Psalms 78:5For he established a testimony in Jacob, and appointed a law in Israel, which he commanded our fathers, that they should make them known to their children: - King James Version
This is a part of this year’s Christmas letter.
Early this year, a movie on the martyrdom of five missionaries 50 years ago in Ecuador received a good deal of media coverage. You may know the story, how widows of the missionaries went to Ecuador to finish the work their husbands began. Several of the Waodani Indians who murdered the missionaries later turned to Christ.
In the U.S., we enjoy an unusually benign climate for believers. In many parts of the world, “the Christian life” can be quite severe and even hazardous. Richard Wurmbrand is one example. A Romanian Jew who became a Lutheran Pastor, he was later jailed for 14 years by the communist government.
Wurmbrand was tortured daily, as he witnessed to others, including the jailers. One of the favorite routines was to beat the soles of his feet, which left him in pain the rest of his life, espeically when he had to wear shoes. That sort of treatment is nothing new. At night, Wurmbrand praised God, prayed for his jailers, and for you and me.
He said the jailers tortured him whenever he preached, and torturing him made the sadistic jailers happy. When he preached, he and the other prisoners were happy, so he preached every day and was tortured every day, and they were all happy. After his release, he made his way to the U.S., where he started several ministries. One of those is the Voice of the Martyrs, the object of which is-’serving the persecuted church’.
The Apostle Paul and his fellow workers were fugitives much of the time, often jailed, flogged, beaten with rods, etc. Paul considered his sufferings for the cause of Christ an honor and a privilege.
Jesus Christ is our anchor. Any anchor needs to dig in, to gain a purchase. Sailers “set” their anchors and avoid allowing the line to go slack. OUr ambassadorships, in which we represent God to this lost world, are like that.
If we are inattentive and let the line go slack, our anchor may not serve its purpose when a storm comes up.
2 Timothy 2:15Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. - King James Version
Through consistent Bible study (under a pastor-teacher who ‘rightly divides’ Scripture), the written Word of God is our source of instruction and encouragement. Only when we “get into the Word”, can the Holy Spirit do His work, teaching us about Christ and our role here as His replacements, telling people about Him.
There are different dispensations or stewardships.
Consider the Abrahamic Covenant and the Mosaic Law that added to it.
Genesis 17:13-1413He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant. 14And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant. - King James Version
Deuteronomy 14:3-43Thou shalt not eat any abominable thing. 4These are the beasts which ye shall eat: the ox, the sheep, and the goat, - King James Version
Deuteronomy 14:7-87Nevertheless these ye shall not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the cloven hoof; as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof; therefore they are unclean unto you. 8And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase. - King James Version
Acts 10:9-159On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour: 10And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance, 11And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth: 12Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. 13And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. 14But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. 15And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. - King James Version
Galatians 3:9-119So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. 10For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. - King James Version
1 Timothy 4:1-51Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 4For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 5For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. - King James Version
To get what God intends us to get from Bible study, we need to follow His instructions and let the Holy Spirit teach.
Thanks to Jo’s Cafe
December 26th, 2006 at 1:18 am
1) Rabbits don’t chew cud.
2) Circumcision may be commanded in the old testament, but it’s superceded by “Thou Shall Not Steal” if you ask me. And it’s directly contradicted by Romans 2:29, Romans 3:30, Acts 15:10, I Corinthians 7:18, Galatians 5:6, Galatians 5:2, Galatians 6:15, Philippians 3:2, Colossians 2:12, and Matthew 9:12 which make it clear that circumcision is not part of Christianity.
You can focus on whatever you wish in the bible in order to justify slavery, ***-bashing, genocide, oppression of women, or circumcision. Or you can try to live by Christ’s example.
December 26th, 2006 at 6:27 am
I just love it when nonbelievers quote the bible and call us xenophobes and all that other horse hockey.
The “hare” is mentioned not only in that verse from Deuteronomy, but in Leviticus. It’s about unclean meat, which is to safeguard against disease. (Common sense, but some people need to have it spelled out. It should be noted that Moses pointed something out that the scientific community didn’t figure out until 3,000 years later.)
This is what Wycliffe Bible Encylopedia says about the hare:
More about this here and here . The New American Standard Bible translates the hebrew word shaphan into rock badger. The King James Bible uses the word coney. A more precise term for rock badger from a scientific point of view is the word hyrax. And according to the Biological Abstracts and a German biology journal the hyrax definitely regurgitates and rechews its food.
The Syrian population has been described as a subspecies, Procavia capensis syriacus, although some regard it as a distinct species (once known as Hyrax syricaus). They are probably the “rock badger” or “coney” mentioned as an unclean meat in Leviticus 11:5.
Circumcision was a covenant with Abraham’s descendants. God’s covenant with Abraham in Genesis 17 is no different in principle than any other contract you enter into today. Abraham has some obligations, and so does God, although the terms and conditions of this contract are a little bit more unusual than the terms and conditions of your mortgage.
What does circumcision ’steal’?
Genesis 17 lays it all out as to the reason why that covenant is special, so I’m not going to say much more about that ridiculous statement.
As far as your comments about supporting ‘oppression of women, ‘*** bashing’ and ‘promoting genocide’, that proves to me once again that you don’t understand the context of what is written there, but without the Holy spirit to teach you, you will probably never understand.
Women are honored in the bible, it’s known as western chivalry, which is an enemy of communism.
From Marxism to Feminism: The planned destruction of the American family
Statement of Bill Wood
FC-8 Hearing on Waste, Fraud, and Abuse July 17, 2003
TESTIMONY FOR THE [US] WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE
Women are placed on a pedestal and protected in our society, as they should be. This is a historical part of our culture which liberals are attempting to change, even though biologically, men and women are very different. Let me see if I can simplify this for the sake of discussion. Man and woman are created in God’s image, and are equal before God. The marriage relationship models the way God relates to his people. A husband is to love his wife as Christ loved the church. He has the God-given responsibility to provide for, to protect, and to lead his family. A wife is to submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ. She, being in the image of God, as is her husband, and thus equal to him, has the God-given responsibility to respect her husband and to serve as his helper in managing the household and nurturing the next generation.
That’s not slavery, that’s love. If more married relationships were based on this simple premise, we would have fewer domestic violence problems.
Yet, liberals are flocking to Islam, which in its most extreme form, beats women who aren’t covered, holds them in purdah, keeps them uneducated, and which supports ‘honor killings’ and rape. In addition to pederasty and killing homosexuals.
Homosexuality is not natural, and that is just common sense. Sex was created for procreation, for the creation of children, and marriage between a man and a woman for the protection and nuturing of those children. Again, that is something the liberals are trying to change, along with focusing on the destruction of the family, trying to remove the possibility of parents educating their children, and getting the state to raise them and educate them, indoctrinating them into the state religion of liberalism. You have to get them young, you see, because common sense might prevail and we certainly can’t have that.
Ever hear the phrase ‘love the sinner, hate the sin’? That phrase is completely lost on hateful liberals.
Abortion is genocide, but strangely, it’s something that liberals support. It’s the murder of innocents, which is against God’s law. An entire generation of innocent Americans has been murdered. The generation that’s supposed to be coming up behind us, contributing to society, going to school and working, just simply doesn’t exist. Few young people are there now to contribute to the bankrupt social security system for the people who are beginning to retire now. And now, our nation is moving in the direction of murdering innocent disabled and elderly people. Hitler would be proud.
I’m not certain what you’re talking about in terms of the ‘genocide’ comment. “Genocide” is what totalitarian murdering dictators do, who are applauded by liberals. Dictators wipe out generations of families like Saddam did. Horrible crimes against their people is ignored by liberals because their populations get ‘free health care’.
Liberals care nothing about “protecting the innocent”, one of the basic tenets of bible teaching. That’s also baffling to me; how people can imagine that Pol Pot, Daniel Ortega, or Cindy Sheehan’s pal, Hugo Chavez or Castro are simply ‘nice guys’ and Che Guevara some kind of hero. It’s convoluted, to say the least.
Christ didn’t bash soldiers, like liberals do. Christ thought of it as an honorable profession. Both the Old and New Testaments teach individual self defense, even if it means taking the assailant’s life in certain circumstances. Most people understand God as a merciful Father who sent a loving Savior, but God will not stay in that box. He is also the Lion of Judah, mighty in power and mighty in battle. The passion of Christ in us stirs up God’s zeal.
Psalms 144:1A Psalm of David. Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight: - King James Version
Liberals, on the other hand, cry for murderers and rapists, holding candlelight vigils for people who’ve been sentenced to death for unspeakable crimes. The Bible distinguishes clearly between the duties of the civil magistrate (the government) and the duties of an individual. Namely, God has delegated to the civil magistrate the administration of justice. Individuals have the responsibility of protecting their lives from attackers.
The Sixth Commandment tells us “Thou shall not murder.” In the chapters following, God gave to Moses many of the situations which require a death penalty. God clearly has not told us never to kill. He has told us not to murder, which means we are not to take an innocent life. The civil magistrate is to be a terror to those who practice evil. This passage does not in any way imply that the role of law enforcement is to prevent crimes or to protect individuals from criminals. The magistrate is a minister to serve as “an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.” (Romans 13:4)
This point is reflected in the legal doctrine of the United States. Repeatedly, courts have held that the government has no responsibility to provide individual security. One case (Bowers v. DeVito) put it this way: “there is no constitutional right to be protected by the state against being murdered.”
Liberals are full of hatred for Christians, innocents, the unborn, people with morals and principles, the family, and American values as a whole, as your clueless comment demonstrates. I’ll be praying for you.
December 26th, 2006 at 8:34 am
Ok, let’s take those other verses you cited and look at them. I see no contradiction in these verses. Please explain.
Romans 2:29But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. - King James Version
Romans 3:30Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. - King James Version
Acts 15:10Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? - King James Version
1 Corinthians 7:18Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised. - King James Version
Galatians 5:6For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love. - King James Version
Galatians 5:2Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. - King James Version
Galatians 6:15For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. - King James Version
Philippians 3:2Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. - King James Version
Colossians 2:12Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. - King James Version
and
Matthew 9:12But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. - King James Version
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Romans 4:16Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all, - King James Version
In Romans the means by which the Gentile and Jew become justified by the faith of Abraham. In this chapter he explains, point by point, the logic that leads to the conclusion that Abraham is the spiritual father of both the Jew and Gentile, because the heirship had nothing to do with physical seed (children) or the practice of circumcision. (This doesn’t negate what I said about God’s covenant with Abraham, but in the new testament, the law is struck down, replaced by the age of Grace.)
Frankly, your point is lost on me; Christ’s sacrifice on the cross was the fulfillment of the mosaic law, that is why Paul talks about ‘circumcision of the spirit’ rather than the actual practice of circumcision. You actually quote Galatians 5:6, which illustrates the point nicely. Still, I think we can agree that circumcision is done here in the United States for health and safety reasons. I knew a guy who wasn’t circumcised, whose foreskin closed up and he had to go to the emergency room for an emergency circumcision. Not a pleasant thing for a grown man, I have to say.
December 26th, 2006 at 8:36 am
Circumcision may be commanded in the old testament
LOL — what do you mean it “may” be commanded???
You obviously don’t know hardly anything about the Bible, much less actually read it — Cao is absolutely correct, as God’s Word clearly states the Covenant He established with Abraham:
Genesis 17:10-1410This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised. 11And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you. 12And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed. 13He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant. 14And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant. - King James Version
He goes on further with His covenant:
Genesis 17:22-2722And he left off talking with him, and God went up from Abraham. 23And Abraham took Ishmael his son, and all that were born in his house, and all that were bought with his money, every male among the men of Abraham's house; and circumcised the flesh of their foreskin in the selfsame day, as God had said unto him. 24And Abraham was ninety years old and nine, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin. 25And Ishmael his son was thirteen years old, when he was circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin. 26In the selfsame day was Abraham circumcised, and Ishmael his son. 27And all the men of his house, born in the house, and bought with money of the stranger, were circumcised with him. - King James Version
This Covenant was NOT superceded, as the Ten Commandments came AFTER the Covenant was established when God brought Moses to Mount Sinai, which is clearly defined in:
Exodus 20:1-261And God spake all these words, saying, 2I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. 3Thou shalt have no other gods before me. 4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. 7Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. 8Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. 12Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. 13Thou shalt not kill. 14Thou shalt not commit adultery. 15Thou shalt not steal. 16Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. 17Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ***, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's. 18And all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw it, they removed, and stood afar off. 19And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die. 20And Moses said unto the people, Fear not: for God is come to prove you, and that his fear may be before your faces, that ye sin not. 21And the people stood afar off, and Moses drew near unto the thick darkness where God was. 22And the LORD said unto Moses, Thus thou shalt say unto the children of Israel, Ye have seen that I have talked with you from heaven. 23Ye shall not make with me gods of silver, neither shall ye make unto you gods of gold. 24An altar of earth thou shalt make unto me, and shalt sacrifice thereon thy burnt offerings, and thy peace offerings, thy sheep, and thine oxen: in all places where I record my name I will come unto thee, and I will bless thee. 25And if thou wilt make me an altar of stone, thou shalt not build it of hewn stone: for if thou lift up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted it. 26Neither shalt thou go up by steps unto mine altar, that thy nakedness be not discovered thereon. - King James Version
This is clearly defined and repeated again:
Leviticus 19:11Ye shall not steal, neither deal falsely, neither lie one to another. - King James Version
Again; Cao is absolutely correct in the fact women were/are honored all the way thru the Bible — perhaps you need to take the year 2007 and read God’s Word from cover-to-cover, as you’ll discover these truths for yourself … maybe you didn’t respect your Mother, as God clearly defines that too:
Leviticus 19:3Ye shall fear every man his mother, and his father, and keep my sabbaths: I am the LORD your God. - King James Version
Notice how He placed “Mother” before Father?
Going further, I’ll back Cao up with Scripture relating to Homosexuality:
Leviticus 18:6-206None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD. 7The nakedness of thy father, or the nakedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness. 8The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness. 9The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover. 10The nakedness of thy son's daughter, or of thy daughter's daughter, even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover: for theirs is thine own nakedness. 11The nakedness of thy father's wife's daughter, begotten of thy father, she is thy sister, thou shalt not uncover her nakedness. 12Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's sister: she is thy father's near kinswoman. 13Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy mother's sister; for she is thy mother's near kinswoman. 14Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy father's brother, thou shalt not approach to his wife: she is thine aunt. 15Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy daughter in law: she is thy son's wife; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness. 16Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of thy brother's wife: it is thy brother's nakedness. 17Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, neither shalt thou take her son's daughter, or her daughter's daughter, to uncover her nakedness; for they are her near kinswomen: it is wickedness. 18Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time. 19Also thou shalt not approach unto a woman to uncover her nakedness, as long as she is put apart for her uncleanness. 20Moreover thou shalt not lie carnally with thy neighbour's wife, to defile thyself with her. - King James Version
Leviticus 18:22Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. - King James Version
December 26th, 2006 at 9:13 am
Actually, Yat, if I’m not mistaken, Paul talks about circumcision not being necessary in the New Testament. And it makes sense, because the mosaic law was fulfilled when Christ was sacrificed on the cross. I may have to ask my dad about this one.
All I know is I prefer a circumcised man.
Jesus was circumcised, and so were his disciples (Luke 1:59). The Apostle Paul circumcised Timothy, or had him circumcised, (Acts 16:3). Paul cautioned the Corinthians against uncircumcising themselves. (1 Cor. 7:18).
Most of the things in the old testament were about cleanliness, and I think even today people can agree that circumcision is about preventing problems. The American Academy of Pediatrics doesn’t consider circumcision to be medically necessary, but there are some medical reasons for performing one.
On the slavery thing, Paul made it clear.
Galatians 3:28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. - King James Version
This guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about on a number of issues he raised there in just a few sentences. I go crazy, though, because I see liberal hypocrisy in pacifism. And I think Christian pacifists have caved to socialism, abandoning simple Christian principles and teachings.
Galatians 5:1Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. - King James Version
Seems to me as though we’re being warned against socialists there.
December 26th, 2006 at 9:47 am
Let’s see, Cao — besides what I quoted, the following are the only other references I know of relating to circumsion:
Genesis 21:4And Abraham circumcised his son Isaac being eight days old, as God had commanded him. - King James Version
Deuteronomy 30:6And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live. - King James Version
Jeremiah 4:4Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings. - King James Version
Acts 16:3Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek. - King James Version
Philippians 3:5Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee; - King James Version
Colossians 2:11In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: - King James Version
John 7:22Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers;) and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man. - King James Version
Romans 2:29But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. - King James Version
Romans 3:1What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? - King James Version
1 Corinthians 7:19Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God. - King James Version
Galatians 5:6For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love. - King James Version
I’m glad that my Mother followed God’s Word and had all of her sons’ circumsised!
December 26th, 2006 at 9:54 am
Galatians 5:6 (King James Version)
For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
Galatians 5:6 (Amplified Bible)
For [if we are] in Christ Jesus, neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith activated and energized and expressed and working through love.
December 26th, 2006 at 9:55 am
I just think it’s common sense, in view of modern scientific observations on circumcision.
But liberals don’t seem to have much common sense, they’d rather rely on simple slogans with nothing to back them up. Hell, if you want to take the risk, go ahead and leave the foreskin like it is and see what kind of problems crop up. I’m staying with CLEAN.
December 26th, 2006 at 9:59 am
Galatians 5:6 says it all, I think.
Still, I think it’s a good thing that over 85% of males in the US are circumcised.
Even muslims do it to their male offspring. They consider themselves also to be descendants of Abraham.
December 26th, 2006 at 10:19 am
Correct; Liberals common sense has diminshed by at least 85% over the past 10+ years, not giving much thought to slogans invented by another breathing idiot in their midst, and questioning the validity.
Sure is funny — Muslims hate us and are constantly striving to destroy us; yet, they consider themselves descendants of their Father Abraham by continuing to follow what was written by Christ in the Covenant over 2,000 years ago.
I’d say that, no matter what they voice and act upon, they know what’s right and wrong according to God’s Word to Abraham and Moses.
December 26th, 2006 at 4:06 pm
Personally, I think they make no sense at all.
That’s why pointing out the fallacies of their arguments is so easy.