The Atheist in a Foxhole website, with the specific post called “Kathryn Cramer loves Mookie Spicoli” that I referred to on the Kathryn Cramer post here is conspicuously missing from the web. It is also not available through the wayback machine. It’s available still on a cache, so I saved it to an mht file for future reference, including the pictures associated with it. How incredibly odd. This is just another example, though, of how ‘google loves Kathryn Cramer’. Somehow the two-faced scheming propagandists find a way to influence the flow of information to slant in their favor. But, these little details are not lost on me.

I have found, though, some delicious comment threads where Kathryn Cramer stands in complete denial about her malicious behavior toward others.

We could do a lot to raise the level of the discourse by strongly encouraging people to blog and comment under their real names with properly functioning contact information. Anonymity and disguise give people the feeling that they are not answerable for their behavior.

Posted by Kathryn Cramer at July 7, 2004 01:59 PM

Ha! We know who you are, you haven’t made it a secret, when are you going to be ‘answerable for your behavior?” Lecturing on the ‘level of discourse’ in view of what you’ve done is the epitome of hyposcrisy. Actually we could raise the level of discourse if people like Cramer didn’t post fictional articles masquerading as fact, photoshops and defamation aimed at people she doesn’t agree with on their blogs, considering all of that to be perfectly acceptable and just business as usual.

She turns a political conversation into a personal attack, which I guess is all these people have left. Sad, isn’t it?

Sorry to interrupt the LGF-bashing (and phony trolls pretending to be LGF fans), but we now have registration for comment posting at LGF, and the posts by freaks like those above, using fake email addresses and names, have dried up completely.

You may now proceed with your regularly scheduled bashfest.

Posted by Charles Johnson at July 7, 2004 02:22 PM

So registered comments at LGF were brought on because of this incident with Cramer and her leftist troll buddies!

I find it notable that Charles Johnson is coming out against identity concealment among commentors. Do other bloggers want to follow suit?

Posted by Kathryn Cramer at July 7, 2004 02:24 PM

Maybe you want to send that as a suggestion to your buddies Joe Cafasso, and Ed Artis, Kathryn.

Thanks, Kathryn. Coming from someone who posted (what she thought was) my personal address and phone number on her blog and invited her readers to harass me, that’s … uh … rich.

Posted by Charles Johnson at July 7, 2004 02:30 PM

Indeed.

Kathryn,

Charles is not the only person whose personal information (incorrect in CJ’s case) you’ve published on your blog, and whom you’ve invited your readers to harass. I know of at least one other, and in that case you personally recommended harassing him professionally.
Charles, on the other hand, immediately deleted YOUR personal information when it was once posted at LGF by a commenter.

As Charles’ entry at LGF suggests, you should address the beam in your eye before critiquing the mote in anothers. Of all people in the blogosphere, you have no standing to make such criticisms.

I don’t think Charles is in denial. I think he’s well aware that 30,000 people read his blog daily. I think he’s aware that his reporting of the things the mainstream media ignores has an influence. I think he’s well aware that he has a loyal following that respects his efforts and is willing to defend him against unfounded attacks.

Shouldn’t you be busy smearing dead Americans?

Posted by Powderfinger at July 7, 2004 03:40 PM

No, Charles isn’t the only one.

Kathryn Cramer also carried on a protracted and hysterical campaign of complaints to my hosting company, trying to get my site shut down. She only stopped when Hosting Matters explicitly threatened her with legal action for making spurious charges.

Why is she pursuing this vendetta? Because I exposed her despicable attempt to link one of the American contractors murdered and torn apart in Fallujah to a neo-Nazi — who just happened to have the same name.

This is the dishonest and vindictive creature who presumes to lecture on civility.

Posted by Charles Johnson at July 7, 2004 03:57 PM

So dishonest and vindictive, that when she’s caught, she gets intimate with her delete button, and somehow google, in its love affair with her, manipulates the search results so references to it disappear.

This is a woman who’s a stay-at-home-mom, but possesses no compassion in any fibre of her being. This is a woman who, quite simply, lies like a rug.

For all of her *sniff* elitist superiority *snort*, this woman doesn’t appear to be all that bright, at least in my estimation. Just like John Kerry, who sneered at Bush’s lack of intelligence, Cramer points an accusatory finger at people, not able to see that she’s the one that guilty of the very behavior she accuses others of. Bush’s grades at Yale, as it turns out, were better than John Kerry’s, and Kerry explained to his family that “D” was for “distinction”.

What I forgot to mention when I was talking about Cramer celebrating the death of Michael Teague, and painting him as a nazi, is that the ‘nazi’ characterization completely falls flat when you realize that reminiscent of kristallnacht, and the events that came before. You’d have to have some ability to recall history, of course. And holocaust denial and running the jews into the sea is precisely the point of view of the people on her side of the ideological spectrum. Cramer, in feminazi leftist authoritarian fashion, has pursued people online, and has a history of filing malicious complaints; particularly if she doesn’t like what they’re writing about her and expose her for what she really is.

In the case of Charles Johnson, she filed a malicious complaint with LGF’s hosting company attempting to get his sites taken down. She quite simply holds people to different standards than she holds herself, and fabricates lies. This isn’t much different than the communist Soviet Union, or the Baathists under Saddam Hussein, or the Nazis Germany during the ’30’s. I sometimes try to imagine the persecution of the Jews, and what their experience was in Germany during that period. You don’t have to wonder long if you read the incredible book “The Diary of Ann Frank”. When reading some of that information, I realized that the leftists of today would like conservatives to be hiding and on the run; because they are simply repeating that very same behavior toward us. Michael Teague was one of the American contractors who was burned alive in a car, their charred remains beaten, their bodies dragged through the street. Then, the terrorists took those broken charred remains and strung them up over the Euphrates. The lack of compassion that leftists have toward their fellow Americans engaged in any facet of this multifaceted war on terror is a sad fact. Cramer’s cluelessness, double standards and duplicity is completely astonishing, and Teague is just one example of how she’s willing to drag someone’s name through the mud, even if her target died a horrible death at the hands of terrorists, just to make a political point. A point, which, by the way, has no basis in fact!

But this shouldn’t come as much of a surprise, because she can’t find a job as a researcher. And why can’t she find a job as a researcher? Because her ‘research’ is based on defamation, fueled by her science fiction fueled imagination; the same kind of bullshit, fiction, fabrication and lies as the posts on her blog. Hell, when you realize that she’s been in bed with Cafasso (some say quite literally), and the fact that much of what she’s used at her blog against Jack Idema was fed to her by Joe Cafasso et al, the big picture that pulls into view is that she’s a “researcher” only in her overactive fantasyworld.

The duplicity of her actions helps one to draw the conclusion that she’s trying to straddle both sides of the fence in order to avoid consequences to her behavior. On the one hand she posted about Joe Cafasso having conned her out of $20 grand, that she wants ‘help’ law enforcement. On the other hand, she approached me, (using my unlisted telephone number that was published in the autotrack at Stuporpatriots in December of 2005) saying she’s collected quite a volume of information on him and is writing a book. All this while simultaneously posting that she’s a ‘researcher’, expecting people to take her seriously. But when you examine the ‘research’, it’s fabricated information fed to her by Joe Cafasso that has no foundation in fact or reality. She hasn’t taken any of the items down about Idema’s connection with Mirko and the Serbs, which was partly manufactured by Cafasso and doesn’t exist; nor the items about other people that was also sent to her in confidence through email.

I wouldn’t be surprised if she put up a post about Idema claiming that he really is, in fact, Ted Bundy, which would be just as ridiculous as the rest of the lies that she, Robert Young Pelton, Joe Cafasso, Bob Morris and Ed Artis have sprinkled on the internet across the message boards, in internet chat rooms and on comments sections on blogs. But you can tell what side of the ideological aisle they’re leaning on when doing so; when the people are clueless enough to rely upon information from this hack and post links to her blog there, as though it is significant and relevant.

She responded to me in email, asking if I can prove my allegations where she made fun of my boobs, called me ugly, etc.

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Well here is the short answer: Of course I can! But Kathryn, you don’t honestly think that I’m like you and can’t back up what I’m saying with fact, now, do you? Do what you want with those images, cover it up, have dogpile take them down, eliminate the picture that you entitled “Cow Cleavage”, etc.-you’re just demonstrating how immature and unhinged you are, grasping at straws to depict people in an unfavorable light, and how your ‘research’ doesn’t amount to squat.

Maybe you should try working at a fertilizer company, you’re very experienced in spreading it around!

The most glaring example of hypocrisy is that she expects us to honor her requests for not publishing information sent through email, but she has no problem with using and publishing information that is sent to her through email, particularly if it sends a signal to Cafasso that she’s still ‘on his side’.

Cramer complains about people who blog or leave comments under pseudonyms, but turns a complete blind eye to Joe Cafasso and Robert Young Pelton doing the very same thing.

She accused me of having a collage of pictures of her 9-year-old son at this website, and insisted that I take it down. Well that was easy, it didn’t exist!

It isn’t me that has a photographic representation of every single event in my life. How many people do you know who take obsessive pictures of every little thing they do and then upload it to the internet? Kathryn Cramer does that and has album upon album pictures that I would venture to say most people could give a rip about. She must be very impressed with herself, for every little detail of her life goes up on the internet, but honestly, how bored does she think everyone else is, and how can she possibly think that John Q. Public is all that interested?

But I gather that in April of 2004, she went after Hosting Matters, LGF’s hosting company, trying to get Charles Johnson’s blog taken down because Charles Johnson and LGF were allegedly “inciting organized attacks” on her web site. She’s so clueless that she also accused LGF of orchestrated DNS attacks against her website. The hosting company responded, telling her in essence, that she was full of it:

This reads a bit like a non-sequitor. What does any filing you may make anywhere have to do with showing where the site holder has been “inciting organized attacks” against your site? If you are unable to provide the information to back your claims, that’s perfectly fine, and we will treat this complaint accordingly. However, if you are attempting to have us take action against the site holder because of your unsubstantiated claims of this activity, that is not perfectly fine. Since we have unearthed a request from the site holder that specifically requests that any visitors to your site from his not engage in any untoward activity, it makes your claims sound a lot less like those made in good faith as a report of abusive activity and more like someone who is blaming a party with whom they have some dispute for the actions of others. This is not acceptable to us. We will not take any action against our client because of it, nor will we involve ourselves in disputes or this nature.

We have also read your claims of DOS attacks against your site. As someone noted in a comment to your site, a DOS attack renders a site or network unusable due to massive amounts of traffic directed to it: it is, as the term “Denial of Service” term means, an attack designed to make a site or service inaccessible to anyone. Based on our research of the entries and comments made on your site, it does not appear that your site was inaccessible in any manner. If you make us a party to any filings by providing us with copies, and make this type of claim in those filings, we will contact whatever parties or agencies with which those claims are filed to advise them of the improper use of this term. We will further advise them to request the logs from your service provider to review the traffic to the site, along with the logs or MRTG graphs from the network equipment that show the actual transfer levels to and from your site and the server on which it resides. This will be done so that they can adequately assess whatever claims you may make related to this particular issue.

She doesn’t seem to know how to contain her hysteria when someone is calling her on the carpet for her own pathetic behavior; but she expects everyone to listen when she cries ‘wolf!’ She simply couldn’t dispute what I said in this post, instead coming after me through email, demanding that I stop harrassing her and her family.

If you make your information public, Kathryn, stuff is going to happen. Your trolling behavior is that of Stephen Pearcy, who also wishes that the soldiers would ‘all die’, and who threatens bloggers with lawsuits. Pearcy has also made himself a public persona, standing on street corners with signs, concocting that anti-American art show paid for by American tax dollars, and creating a controversy at his rented home in San Francisco by putting up soldiers in effigy, and appearing on television and in articles with his anti-Bush diatribes. Pearcy, though, unlike Cramer, is a self-described anarchist whose home is in Berkley, and like the coward he is, runs back to the leftist enclave after committing his horrible deeds of inciting hatred toward soldiers who are defending his right to act like a complete ass.

What is a shame to me is-honorable Americans like this who’ve laid down their lives for the freedom of speech that these people take for granted, that same freedom of speech that people like Pearcy and Cramer are trying to get stolen from us, based on lies and hyperbole.

When you make a photoshop like this and put it up at your website, thinking it’s all a big joke, Idema is supposed to take it because he’s a public persona. Satire is perfectly acceptable when someone is a public figure.

Well…if people look at your multitude of albums of you, your children, your husband, etc., people could draw the same conclusion about you, couldn’t they? And that doesn’t amount to harrassment, that amounts to -the same rules should apply to you as apply to everyone else.

From one of the comments at the Atheist in a Foxhole:

She’s a tool dude. Drop it not worth the effort. “When young men seek to be like you, when lazy men resent you, when powerful men look over their shoulder at you, when cowardly men plot behind your back, when corrupt men wish you were gone and evil men want you dead. Only then will you have done your share.” -Phil Messina

In the case of the Smear Jack Cabal, it hasn’t taken any of us who’ve taken on the cause much time to get that kind of a reaction. Hooaah!