7/5/2007
Senate Goes “Ommmmmm”
A week from today the Senate will open up the day of business with a Hindu Prayer, for the first time in history.
A Northern Nevada chaplain plans to travel to Washington, D.C., next month to give what is believed to be the first Hindu prayer read at the U.S. Senate since it was formed in 1789.
Rajan Zed, a Hindu chaplain in Reno, applied to the Senate chaplain’s office earlier this year for permission to give the morning prayer that opens Senate business each day. He received word this week he’s been approved for the job July 12.
“It is an honor for me and for Nevada and for Hindus everywhere,” Zed said in an interview.
The ACLU doesn’t care about this?
Koed said the Senate has kept track of the first prayers given by certain people, including the first woman and first African American. But she said there have been thousands of prayers given over the years and the chaplain’s office has not recorded all of them.
The Senate chaplain usually gives the prayer, but guests frequently step in to do the job.
Zed, spokesman for the India Association of Northern Nevada, decided to inquire about the possibility of giving the prayer after he became the first to read a Hindu prayer to the Nevada State Assembly on March 19 and then the Nevada Senate on May 7.
Zed, who also teaches classes at Truckee Meadows Community College on Hinduism and Hindu gods and goddesses, said he likely will include references to ancient Hindu scriptures, including Rig Veda, Upanishards and Bhagavard-Gita.
I find this odd. Religion is welcomed in the House so long as it’s not Judea-Christian religion.
Many are pushing to have all references to God removed from our currency and the phrase, “One nation, under God” removed from the Pledge. Battles about 10 Commandment plaques have taken up a huge portion of the ACLU’s time and effort.
Will we be hearing low tone, long winded “OMMMMMMM’s” next week? Will we witness our Senators sitting on their butts indian style, each arm up in the air with their index fingers clasped to their thumbs as well?? What a sight it would be…picture Nancy (Cruella) DeVille and Harry Reid in that pose…
July 6th, 2007 at 6:44 pm
Religion is welcomed in the House so long as it’s not Judea-Christian religion.
I hate to say it, but…. “duh”. The ACLU has always made that part of its stance completely clear - they will defend all civil liberties… so long as they are not ones that help Christians.
This kind of thing gets filed under “multiculturalism”, and is therefore sacrosanct and unassailable.
July 6th, 2007 at 7:59 pm
Yep. It makes me sick and there isn’t much to do about it really.
July 8th, 2007 at 7:25 pm
Discrimination by Veda and the Hindu Religion
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The very fundamental value of America will be perturbed and perpetrated on July 12th on the floor of the US senate, by the most dangerous bunch of people on earth “the Hindu fundamentalists”.
It has been reported that senate has invited a Hindu Chaplain by name Rajan Zed from North Nevada to perform this Vedic prayers to start the senate session in Washington DC. This is the height of not only ignorance but height of insanity. Why?, as we all know that America stands for equality, human values, individual rights, liberty and land of opportunity for the capable. On the contrary, Hindu’s of India stands for inequality, highly discriminative of humans as upper, lower and untouchables.
The Hindu Caste system that divided the society and broke the society into thousands of valueless pieces in the caste system, this very same caste system is destroying the dalits every single day in the last 3000 years and it is continuing as of today. The whole pathology of the Indian society stems from this very Vedic preaching’s and teachings.
The Veda scriptures were the foundation for the human discrimination and violence in India. The hindu fundamentalists are destroying Christian churches, burning Christian fathers alive, raping and killing the Christian woman and other minorities, how callous is the senate members who trumpet to invite a hindu chaplain to pray in US senate?
Moreover, the very Vedic learned and earned members of the hindu society are responsible for the enormous poverty, atrocity and responsible for the degraded inhuman treatments of dalits all over India.
How ironic is that the 218 year old, highly respectable US senate has conceived such a pathological idea of hindu prayer? While the 55 year old Indian parliament never advocated or entertained such hindu Vedic prayer in its own land. Because, the savior of Dalits society Dr.B.R.Ambedkar, the first law minister of India and the father of the Indian constitution made caste system illegal and unlawful. So, the good practices and good intentions of the parliament was preserved by the followers of Dr.B.R.Ambedkar and good humans who know the pathological intentions and satanic influence of unscientific and anti-social Vedic scriptures and its preaching’s. Veda and Rig Veda from where the scriptures of hymns will be selected is one of the oldest scriptures written in “Sanskrit” language, why do we Americans has to listen to some alien and ill conceived language that no body has any clue on earth as what the heck this chaplain is saying in his prayers.
This is the same Veda that preaches all men are not equal, this is the same Vedic scriptures teaches human discrimination of the highest order that is destroying humans and the society in India, this is the same Veda that practices sacrifices of animals, including humans to pray false gods.
As the Vedic and Hindu religion prays close to million gods, artificially created to keep the people of India under false and filthy faiths as well as to keep the Indians under constant fear of meaningless stones and idols, Veda is created as a tool to manipulate and control the 90% of the society by a merely 10% anti social elements of the society, so, except for those who created the Vedas who uphold the powerful positions and grabbed the entire opportunities of India into their backyard, are savage animals, they savaged the nation in the name of caste system. The human discrimination and segregation in India is 3000 years old organized social crime, it is a blot on any civilized society and the world. This is originated in the Veda, which discriminates humans as upper, lower, outcaste and untouchable, unseeable and what not!?.
The result, the Vedic teachings and prayers are constantly precipitated in Hindu’s and non-Hindu’s mind that they lack any reasoning and logical abilities, that is why they attack and kill their own fellow men and woman in India. Such is the greatness of Veda that the senate is interested in listening to on the 12th of July.
This initiative and steps taken by the US senate to start the senate with Veda prayer will enormously undermine the value system of America and such a step will encourage nations to discriminate their own people. This will encourage the hindu fundamentalists who are already attacking churches, Muslim prayers Halls and other minorities in India, especially it will give upper hand for the fundamentalist Hindu’s to continue to attack the innocent dalits in the name of meaningless Veda and scriptures. This will add fuel to the already dangerous Hindu’s atrocious activity in India, this Veda preaches and practices that all men are not equal.
Human rights, woman rights and minority rights are equally protected and respected in America, while no such rights exists in India mainly because of the hindu religious sanctions and orders that come through Veda. Is it worthy to use such a prayer in US senate?. Is it right to use such a prayer in US senate?
Respectable senators, congress men/woman and representatives, please be informed about the truths of such prayers from such dangerous religion. While the state has kept the church separate, how come you are bringing the Hindu temple and it’s callous prayers inside the US senate? Are you aware of how many dalits are getting killed in India every single day in the name of the caste system that originated from this very Veda and Vedic scriptures.
We sincerely hope you will pay some attention to these issues and take immediate action to stop the Veda prayers in the upcoming senate session on 12th of July, 2007.
If you respect and follow the American traditional value system that all men are equal, then stop the prayers that teaches all humans are not born equal, then stop the prayers that teaches myths and filthy beliefs, then stop the prayers that are extremely dangerous to India, America and to the world, then stop the Vedic Prayers that are insane and unscientific.
July 15th, 2007 at 2:50 am
Dr Saint,
I would like you to travel India, learn more about India and Hindu Culture before complaining about Vedas. its not the Vedas which have divided people, its the selfish desires of the followers who did. Other than that, India was divided and ruled by the Britishers, can we interpret that Bible teaches division of human on basis of Religion?
True that Indian parliament doesn’t abide by Vedic prayers, but there is no harm in any kind of prayer. Its people like you, who just try to make a fuss of any good thing someone tries to do.
Why do millions of Americans follow Yoga? It is one of the offsprings of the same Hindu religion. And by False Gods what do you mean? Can you prove that Other Gods are true? In a scientific society, I would say nothing is true, except Darwinism and Big Bang. Its just a matter of faith, and belief that makes us good or bad.No religion teaches you hatred, I hope not even Christianity. I am a Hindu,but no one ever told me that Jesus Christ is False or Islam is fake. I hope you /your relgion also preaches the tolerance towards other Faiths.
Thanks
July 19th, 2007 at 1:13 am
You say “I find this odd. Religion is welcomed in the House so long as it’s not Judea-Christian religion.”
But Hasn’t the regular opening prayer always been judeo-christian? One day of Hindu Prayer against thousands and thousands of days of Christian Prayers, and you say christianity is not welcome in the House??
NONSENSE!
July 21st, 2007 at 10:21 pm
Ayush,
I am glad you are taking a positive step to show about you’r Hindu righteousness. FYI, I need not go to India and travel nowhere in India, I am a born Indian and I know how much pathology goes on India in the name of religion and gods.
Do you have any slightest idea about dalits are betrayed and sabbotaged every single day?. Do you have any slightestes idea about how many dalit massacre happened in the hands of those so called vedic abiding hindu’s or whatever they call themselves.
It is not about who prays in the US senate, it is about what is the rationale of a prayer that has to take place in the senate that stands for human rights, respect and dignity.
Hindu scriptures are certainly an anti-human, or those who preach and practice hinduism are dangerous to their own fellow men and woman. What kind of hindu scriptures you practice and still tolerate woman atrocity in India?.
How do you go about your day to day life, when a next door neighbour is illtreated because he or she is treated less than an animal, because they are some damn caste?.
Do not imagine that all the writers about hindu/India are some strangers to India. It is my soil before I left India for all good reasons. I can’t live with those casteistic animals and butchers in some vedic name sake. Not me.
And, I am for one will take this “stop veda” to the next level. Here in US we value human as human, no filthy caste and no filthy upper or lower status by birth. Period.