7/21/2007
The New Republic’s Scott Thomas: fake but accurate
I’m going to explain the title to this post because most people ‘just don’t get it’. That is what a NYT typist said regarding the Killian memos (remember when the leftists were all nuts about Bush’s military service?) and Dan Rather’s sticking to the story while his career was going down in flames…the Killian memos might have been fake, but the story was accurate! yeah, right. Now this isn’t about the New York Times, this is about The New Republic. But I’ve long noticed this trend of ‘fake but accurate’ in the media…particularly the leftist media that carries water for terrorists and murderers.
Fact or Fiction? A Mission for MilBloggers - Michael Goldfarb - Weekly Standard
First, read Goldfarb’s excerpts of the New Republic’s stories, the call to action, and finally, note the email address you can use to send your comments to.
If you’re already aware of the story of the soldier wearing a child’s rotting skull with hair still attached (discovered in a mass grave nobody ever heard of) as a cap UNDER his cover, chasing a dog in a Bradley (a very loud slow-moving tank) when the dog is on the right and can run and easily outmaneuver it, there is no visibility on the right hand side because of the engine compartment and cooling system on the right hand side, not to mention a driver wouldn’t see anything on the right hand side even if he was hanging out of the hatch, the story of people in the ‘chow hall’ making fun of a disfigured woman who’d been hurt from an IED, and so on, then you can understand why the blogosphere is all in a tizzy about the series of essays at the New Republic written by the pseudononymous “Scott Thomas”. There is something that is not quite right about the stories he’s telling, and here are some of the milbloggers and bloggers who are familiar with military culture and jargon who can explain why it is that this stinks out loud.
Who is TNR’s mysterious author ‘Scott Thomas’? - Ray Robison, American Thinker
Robison pieces together the reasons why he thinks it’s a guy the anti-war left is using to pimp their message: Clifton Hicks, who now has ‘conscientious objector’ status after having been released from the service, in part, for unprofessional conduct. He compares the writing styles of Scott Thomas and Hicks, and also about journalists who’ve written about Hicks. It isn’t a stretch to think that he might have combined a couple of journalists names as a cynical private joke in order to come up with the nom de plume “Scott Thomas”. Stranger things have happened.
“Scott Thomas:” The new Winter Soldier? - Michelle Malkin
Let me make one thing clear at the outset: To question the veracity of a soldier’s accounts of war atrocities in Iraq is not to question that such atrocities ever happen. They do. But when such accusations are made pseudonymously, punctuated with red flags and adorned with incredible embellishment, the only responsible thing to do is to raise questions about his identity and agenda without fear or apology–and demand answers.
I Love the Smell of Bovine Excreta in the Morning - Sgt. Mom - The Daily Brief
Scott Thomas: Fact or Fiction? - OpFor
The skull-hat tale raised some mental red flags on my end, simply because of the Thomas’ timeline. The thought of a soldier (a) so grossly and openly violating the UCMJ and (b) wearing human remains for the better part of the day without an NCO or an officer spotting him is absolutely unbelievable.
But that’s on the micro level. On the macro, my suspicions rest on a trinity of facts:
1) Recent examples of warzone whistleblowing have turned out to be false (Jimmy Massey, Jesse MacBeth, Daniel Coburn) and driven by an agenda.
2) The dispatches fit a narrative.
3) The New Republic has a proven, historical susceptibility to fake journalism.
Bon Appétit, TNR - Dymphna - The Gates of Vienna
The dust-up concerns a series of essays The New Republic has published by a supposed soldier in Iraq who describes anecdotes about his fellow soldiers that are (a) horrific and disgusting, and (b) inaccurate in their details. Of course, (b) simply means another “fake-but-accurate” strand in the MSM tapestry of careless lies and half-truths woven to serve their purposes. With the MSM, f-b-a is a standard sufficient to allow them to print what the rest of us consider slanderous, but which gives them license to put their agenda into the public sphere for consumption by the willing or the unwary.
Michael Yon: The TNR troop story “sounds like complete garbage” - AllahPundit-HotAir
Busted!… New Republic’s “Shock Troops” Shocker Is BOGUS! - Gateway Pundit
Lt. Steven Glass Now Writing For The New Republic From Iraq? -Ace
Ace compares some of what was written to Kerry’s Winter Soldier testimony, and gives two great Steve Glass comparisons, one, here:
How did Glass get away with filing dozens of obviously fraudulent report, and getting them all published?
Well, simple, really: He went for “colorful anecdotes” involving unnamed and unidentifiable people, the sort of thing that by its very nature could not be verified. And further, would never draw a single complaint from a maligned subject, because his subjects were simply entirely fictitious.
It’s dangerous to put fake words into the mouths of real people. It’s less dangerous to put fake words into the mouths of fake people, who work for fake organizations, discover fake mass graves, etc., because who is there exactly to write in a letter of complaint saying “I never said that”?
Several at The Tank:
RE: TNR and the Military [W. Thomas Smith Jr.]
TNR and the Military [James S. Robbins]
RE: RE: ‘Shock Troops’ at TNR [W. Thomas Smith Jr.]
Battle Buddies Mudville Gazette
How far into The New Republic’s fabricated war story did I have to get to recognize it was a fabricated story? Answer: Not very far. Here’s the first line:
I saw her nearly every time I went to dinner in the chow hall at my base in Iraq.
….Top asked a passing soldier “Hey, what time does the chow hall close?”. His response was a blank stare, and a “huh?”. He moved closer to the vehicle.
“What time does the Chow Hall close?” The First Sergeant repeated. The soldier began to appear confused, and was unable to respond. Something clicked in my head. “He doesn’t know what a chow hall is” I said. The term is outdated, appearing now only in old war movies on TV, but Top and I are old school. “What time does the DFAC close?” Asked the First Sergeant.
Michael Yon weighs in at the Weekly Standard
That story about American soldiers at FOB Falcon sounds like complete garbage. I spent time with them this year, and in fact keep them on the front page of my site. 1-4 CAV is an excellent unit. I emailed the commander, LTC James Crider, about the story.
Please put that horrible reporting into context of something accurate. I humbly submit this: Desires of the Human Heart, Part One
The New Republic Is A Joke - TF Boggs- Vox Veterana
For starters I believe the entire New Republic story to be a fake, no soldier would ever be able to get away with the things that the author says he did. Not even taking into consideration that most of what he said is basically impossible i.e. running over dogs in a Bradley (a Bradley cannot maneuver quick enough to run over a moving dog), a soldier wearing a human skull on his head (how exactly does a human skull fit like a hat?), and making fun of a woman scarred by an IED (a soldier who said something like that would get his ass kicked by anyone in the vicinity, including me).
Fiction At the New Republic? -Dad Manly:
Sounds to me their phony veteran might be pulling stories from movies or what he’s read. (Or from anti-war websites.)
For those who claim that the New Republic shouldn’t have to validate or confirm these claims, I’d say that the overwhelming preponderance of phonies, poseurs and charlatans among the anti-war crowd, and how regularly they are duped by phonies, should make them even more cautious. You know, if they were really interested in reporting facts, rather than furthering agendas. And oh, probably they might want to hire a military adviser who knows something more about the military than it’s filled with ignorant loser yahoos, guns are bad, and bombs go boom.
Update 8/7/07: Beauchamp recanted.
A Blog For All linked with Crumbling Credibility at The New Republic
Blue Star Chronicles linked with Will the Blogosphere Defend Our Military the Same











July 22nd, 2007 at 9:04 pm
Will the Blogosphere Defend Our Military the Same
I ask this question in all sincerity. I believe the blogosphere was the driving force behind the defeat of the bill that would have given amnesty for illegal aliens. It could do the same for our Fighting Forces.
Our Vietnam Veterans came home to c…
July 22nd, 2007 at 9:06 pm
Crumbling Credibility at The New Republic
Dan Riehl notes that while the facts of this story are coming apart, Franklin Foer, the editor of TNR is holding to that statement posted on Friday. While the stories get debunked, Foer claims that those attacking the story have an ideological agenda…
August 7th, 2007 at 5:47 pm
and now that STB’s identity has been established and his reports confirmed/authenticated by other soldiers serving … what is CAO’s current SPIN on the reports, the reporting?
Share. Please.
August 7th, 2007 at 5:57 pm
You’re kind of out of touch [clueless] on this thing, aren’t you, Gillick?
Beauchamp recanted.
No, spin, just the facts. The left will go to any length to lie about things to make a political point.
And since nobody else seems to be referencing the Confederate Yankee’s excellent coverage on this, let me link to it, post-by-post (and update the new one)
A Community-Based Reality
It’s Official: Beauchamp’s Claims Debunked by Army Internal Investigation
TNR: Not Quite All the News that’s Fit to Print
Further Confirmation: No Burned Woman Here
It Didn’t Have To Be This Way
Suddenly Shrinking Sources
August 8th, 2007 at 11:59 am
yessssssssssss …
THE ARMY refutes Pvt. Beauchamp’s allegations. THE ARMY investigated. Yes, THE ARMY investigated THE ARMY. Suggested headline: ARMY INVESTIGATORS CLEAR ARMY MEMBERS OF ARMY MISCONDUCT.
Very convincing.
Would this by any chance be the same Army that gave us those fully investigated details of Tillman’s heroic death by enemy fire?
Very VERY convincing.
Nice to know that THE ARMY (perhaps by way of its beloved Corps of Engineers?) is ensuring there will never be a shortage of shovelable sand for our beloved Flagheads to bury their blinkered, hooded (self-Guantanamo’d?) noggins in.
August 8th, 2007 at 5:59 pm
I’m not sure what you don’t get here, John. Beauchamp made up a story. Then Beauchamp admitted that he made it up. No investigations, no spin — one person. They made up a story and then admitted it. What don’t you understand?
August 8th, 2007 at 6:49 pm
This is what’s so funny about this whole Beauchamp article: He (he being the lying ******* that he is) speaks only english. She speaks only arabic. They could not have communicated in any way what-so-ever.
It didn’t/couldn’t have happened.
August 8th, 2007 at 6:50 pm
Moonbats have tunnel vision; they only see that which fits their agenda. Everything else is a conspiracy theory.
It’s Winter Soldier Syndrome, but the drooling knuckledraggers won’t recognize it for what it is, even though the asylum is filling up…
August 8th, 2007 at 7:00 pm
It’s very convincing to those who have a brain in there heads, yes. There are many of these cretins, following the John SKERRY PLAYBOOK, some even without having ever served, or been to Iraq. But let’s not look at those facts.
TNR stands by the story, Beauchump recanted, because he couldn’t bring himself to sign a sworn statement that said all that ******** he made up was true.
When a liar is caught, it’s thrown into question just when exactly did he start to lie?
The only thing we know is, he was planning on returning to the states ‘an author’.
LOL
August 8th, 2007 at 8:52 pm
“THE ARMY investigated THE ARMY. Suggested headline: ARMY INVESTIGATORS CLEAR ARMY MEMBERS OF ARMY MISCONDUCT”
hey, gillick–but I take it you have no problem with suggested headline: “TNR INVESTIGATORS CLEAR TNR REPORTERS AND EDITORS OF JOURNALISTIC MISCONDUCT”?
face it, you want to believe the slander of the armed forces and won’t accept anything to the contrary…that’s what makes you a pinhead lefty…the rest of us who can critically think for ourselves accept that there are miscreants in the military, as in any large organization, and will condemn them when the evidence bears it out (such as with the recent conviction, BY A MILITARY COURT, of a soldier for rape and murder…but i’m sure you have some conspiratorial explanation for that result other than the military policing its own)…you and your rotten ilk, on the other hand, will never admit anything positive re the military no matter how overwhelming the evidence…that’s why the only folks you can convince of anything are those equally deluded and partisan…geez, i and people like CAO have lightweights like you for lunch each and every day because we do know how to think, analyze and approach some level of objectivitiy…learn to critically think or go climb back under your rock…have a nice day, asshat
August 8th, 2007 at 9:02 pm
I think the person that was writng this **** just wants to run for president one day and your new buddy wants to be his VP….
August 8th, 2007 at 9:05 pm
hey gillick, who should investigate? If the person that wrote the story says he lied, what are you gonna do?
I bet you think he recanted under fear of death or something huh?
Anwyay, after looking at your site and realizing that you suffer from a severe case of BDS coupled with Cranial-Rectalitis, all I can suggest is that you re-adjust your helmet, wring out your drool bib and have an ensure, old man.
Shouldn’t you be hitting the 4 o’clock early bird special before matlock comes on grandpa?