11/24/2007

Get the Bible back in schools

By: Cao, Filed under: Faith in God , Founding Fathers , General @ 1:23 pm

I’m in favor of this, partly because the Bible was a text book in our schools until the 1960’s. It’s not a new idea.

Although weirdly - Allahpundit at Hot Air is repeating that “separation of church and state’ hooey that the ACLU and liberals repeat. It doesn’t appear anywhere in our founding documents, so I don’t know where that comes from on a site that is supposed to espouse conservative thought and principles.

If he were to object to teaching religion in schools, maybe he ought to talk about how some schools are teaching children about the Koran and how to wage a jihad.

Here are some of the founders on the Bible as a text book in schools from the National Council on Bible curriculum in Public Schools:

  • The Bible is a book worth more than all the other books that were ever printed.”
    Patrick Henry
  • “It is impossible to enslave mentally or socially a Bible reading people. The principles of the Bible are the groundwork of human freedom.”~Horace Greely
  • “I have always said, and will always say, that studious perusal of the sacred volume will make us better citizens.”~Thomas Jefferson

But there is a longer list than that, that just touches the tip of the iceberg.

The Bible: Foundation of Liberty

If you want to live in a secular society, go to Russia where the words ’separation of church and state’ are actually written into their constitution and it’s illegal to teach anyone about religion until they’re over 18.

Religion is never a purely private affair. Those who tell you your religion should be “private” are attempting to make their religion the basis for public and political power over you.

There are compelling social reasons for making Christianity the foundation of everything that is taught in school, and the Framers of the Constitution understood these reasons.

There is not a single Signer of the Constitution who would have agreed that the Constitution he was signing was intended to give the federal government the power to order municipal schools to remove The Ten Commandments and the Bible. The Founders’ opinion of the Bible, and of its use in schools, was clear:

The great enemy of the salvation of man, in my opinion, never invented a more effectual means of extirpating [extinguishing] Christianity from the world than by persuading mankind that it was improper to read the Bible at schools.[54] [T]he Bible, when not read in schools, is seldom read in any subsequent period of life. . . . [It] should be read in our schools in preference to all other books from its containing the greatest portion of that kind of knowledge which is calculated to produce private and public temporal happiness.[55]
BENJAMIN RUSH, SIGNER OF THE DECLARATION

[Why] should not the Bible regain the place it once held as a school book? Its morals are pure, its examples captivating and noble. The reverence for the Sacred Book that is thus early impressed lasts long; and probably if not impressed in infancy, never takes firm hold of the mind.[56]
FISHER AMES,
AUTHOR OF THE HOUSE LANGUAGE FOR THE FIRST AMENDMENT

Suppose a nation in some distant region should take the Bible for their only law book and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited…. What a Eutopia, what a Paradise would this region be.[57] I have examined all [religions]… and the result is that the Bible is the best Book in the world. It contains more of my little philosophy than all the libraries I have seen.[58]
JOHN ADAMS

[T]he Bible…. [is] a book containing the history of all men and of all nations and… [is] a necessary part of a polite education.[59]
HENRY LAURENS, PRESIDENT OF CONTINENTAL CONGRESS; U.S. DIPLOMAT; SELECTED AS DELEGATE TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION

The Bible itself [is] the common inheritance, not merely of Christendom, but of the world. [60]
JOSEPH STORY, U.S. SUPREME COURT JUSTICE; FATHER OF AMERICAN JURISPRUDENCE

To a man of liberal education, the study of history is not only useful, and important, but altogether indispensable, and with regard to the history contained in the Bible . . . “it is not so much praiseworthy to be acquainted with as it is shameful to be ignorant of it.”[61]
JOHN QUINCY ADAMS

The reflection and experience of many years have led me to consider the holy writings not only as the most authentic and instructive in themselves, but as the clue to all other history. They tell us what man is, and they alone tell us why he is what he is: a contradictory creature that seeing and approving of what is good, pursues and performs what is evil. All of private and of public life is there displayed…. From the same pure fountain of wisdom we learn that vice destroys freedom; that arbitrary power is founded on public immorality.[62]
GOUVERNEUR MORRIS, PENMAN AND SIGNER OF THE CONSTITUTION

[The Bible] is a book worth more than all the other books that were ever printed.[63]
PATRICK HENRY

[T]o the free and universal reading of the Bible in that age, men were much indebted for right views of civil liberty. The Bible is . . . a book which teaches man his own individual responsibility, his own dignity, and his equality with his fellow man.[64]
DANIEL WEBSTER

The Bible is the best of all books, for it is the word of God and teaches us the way to be happy in this world and in the next Continue therefore to read it and to regulate your life by its precepts.[65]
JOHN JAY, ORIGINAL CHIEF-JUSTICE OF THE U S. SUPREME COURT

The Bible is the chief moral cause of all that is good and the best corrector of all that is evil in human society; the best book for regulating the temporal [secular] concerns of men.[66]
NOAH WEBSTER

Bibles are strong entrenchments. Where they abound, men cannot pursue wicked courses.[67]
JAMES MCHENRY
, SIGNER OF THE CONSTITUTION

I don’t think one is the same as the other. On the one hand, we’re fighting that ideology, on the other, we’re forcing people to learn revisionist history like ‘there was no holocaust’ the same line the Palestinian homocide bombing terrorists use.

They are not the same. The Ten Commandments were posted outside and inside of courthouses for a reason; because our laws were based on Mosaic law.

55. Benjamin Rush, Essays, pp. 94, 100, “A Defence of the Use of the Bible as a School Book.”

56. Fisher Ames, Works of Fisher Ames (Boston: T. B. Wait & Co, 1809), pp. 134-135.

57. John Adams, Works, Vol. II, pp. 6-7, diary entry for February 22, 1756.

58. John Adams, Works, Vol. X, p. 85, to Thomas Jefferson on December 25, 1813.

59. Henry Laurens, The Papers of Henry Laurens, George C. Rogers, Jr., and David R. Chesnutt, editors (Columbia, S. C.: University of South Carolina Press, 1980), Vol. VIII, pp. 426-427, to James Lawrenson on August 19, 1772.

60. Joseph Story, A Familiar Exposition of the Constitution of the United States (New York: Harper and Brothers, 1854), p. 259, §446.

61. John Quincy Adams, Letters of John Quincy Adams to His Son on the Bible and Its Teachings (Auburn: James M. Alden, 1850), p. 34.

62. Collections of the New York Historical Society for the Year 1821 (New York: E. Bliss and E. White, 1821), p. 30, from “An Inaugural Discourse Delivered Before the New York Historical Society by the Honorable Gouverneur Morris on September 4, 1816.”

63. William Wirt, Sketches of the Life and Character of Patrick Henry (Philadelphia: James Webster, 1818), p. 402. See also George Morgan, Patrick Henry (Philadelphia & London: J. B. Lippincott Company, 1929), p. 403.

64. Daniel Webster, Address Delivered at Bunker Hill, June 17, 1843, on the Completion of the Monument (Boston: T. R. Marvin, 1843), p. 31. See also W. P. Strickland, History of the American Bible Society from its Organization to the Present Time (New York: Harper and Brothers, 1849), p. 18.

65. John Jay, John Jay: The Winning of the Peace. Unpublished Papers 1780-1784, Richard B. Morris, editor (New York: Harper & Row Publishers, 1980), Vol. II, p. 709, to Peter Augustus Jay on April 8, 1784.

66. Noah Webster, The Holy Bible . . . With Amendments of the Language (New Haven: Durrie & Peck, 1833), p. v.

67. Bernard C. Steiner, One Hundred and Ten Years of Bible Society Work in Maryland (Baltimore: Maryland Bible Society, 1921), p. 14.

More documentation on this subject can be found here.

22 Responses to “Get the Bible back in schools”

  1. BobF Says:

    Check out this proclamation by President Washington from 1789 concerning Thanksgiving. This alone blows the ACLU theory of Separation of Church and State.

  2. Cao Says:

    It’s beautiful, isn’t it? I posted on it back in 2004. I think it’s time we really stood up for our heritage before the libs and militant atheists blow it all to smithereens.

  3. Cao Says:

    But…Maggie has the actual proclamation over there, in addition to Bush’s proclamation in comments.

  4. Faultline USA Says:

    Consider joining the Christians Against Leftist Heresy Blogroll

  5. Cao Says:

    Thanks, I think I’ll do that!

  6. BobF Says:

    That proclamation is amazing. The first sentence alone should be enough to open the eyes of any skeptics and then to read that both houses of congress recommended the President give this proclamation is astounding.

    Our congress sure has come a long way since then.

  7. BobF Says:

    Oh yea, Chuck Norris is an Air Force Veteran.

  8. Cao Says:

    Yeah, a friend of mine was beat up by him personally one night, lol…nice guy…afterwards, they went out for a beer, as the story goes…reminded me of a John Wayne film.

  9. Chuck Norris wants a Bible Curriculum in the Public Schools…(Gasp!) « Jenn Sierra Says:

    […] Chuck Norris wants a Bible Curriculum in the Public Schools…(Gasp!) Cao has a great post, including a video by Chuck Norris, promoting a Bible Curriculum in the public schools (the video can be viewed here, or on my VodPod at the right).  […]

  10. Jenn Sierra Says:

    Excellent info, Cao. Even the most secular of the Founders, Thomas Jefferson, promoted “freedom OF religion,” (on his tombstone - emphasis mine), not Freedom FROM religion.

  11. Chuck Norris wants a Bible Curriculum in the Public Schools…(Gasp!) Says:

    […] It’s true…see for yourself (hat-tip, Cao). This is an old video, from 2006, but is being recycled now, by opponents of presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, because Chuck Norris has endorsed (oops, I mean “approved”) him as his choice for the Republican nomination. […]

  12. Grizzly Groundswell » Chuck Norris wants a Bible Curriculum in the Public Schools…(Gasp!) Says:

    […] It’s true…see for yourself (hat-tip, Cao). This is an old video, from 2006, but is being recycled now, by opponents of presidential candidate Mike Huckabee, because Chuck Norris has endorsed (oops, I mean “approved”) him as his choice for the Republican nomination. […]

  13. Cao Says:

    Thanks, Jenn. Atheists like to quote Jefferson, but he believed in freedom OF not, freedom FROM, as you pointed out. And this article makes me think that their screaming that he was a ‘deist’ and that the founders were ‘deists’ is merely another example of historical revisionism.

  14. ambrose Says:

    “Although weirdly - Allahpundit at Hot Air is repeating that “separation of church and state’ hooey that the ACLU and liberals repeat. It doesn’t appear anywhere in our founding documents . . .”

    So is the First Amendment to the United States Constitution somehow not part of our “founding documents,” in your view?

    ‘Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.’

  15. Cao Says:

    The key words that you’re ignoring or avoiding but did, in fact, put in print are …. ‘or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.’

    There is nothing there that says separation of church and state.

    In 1781 Thomas Jefferson wrote,

    … can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep forever.”

    He warns us against losing the idea that our nation and liberty are intertwined with reverence for God. Accepting the myth of ’separation of church and state’ between government and religion, we ignore Jefferson’s warning and remove the “only firm basis” of our liberties. Freedom of choice is not only left unsecured, but through that ’separation’ myth, it is thoroughly denied.

  16. Kent Says:

    It is so great to see the increased interest in allowing our public school students to CHOOSE to take Bible history and literature courses. There’s a couple of videos on this at http://youtube.com/bibleintheschools

  17. Ogre Says:

    So how about we get the state and federal governments out of education and let people make up their own minds? Wouldn’t that be a radical concept? Not to mention it would be fun watching the ACLUnatics having to file lawsuits all over the place instead of one central location…

  18. Cao Says:

    That’s a pretty good idea, Ogre. No state-runned schools.

  19. Paolo Says:

    Public schools created “Italians” through indoctrination of the youth by the end of the nineteenth century, and that worked! That happened after Piedmont invaded southern Italy (then: Il Regno delle Due Sicilie): our new religion was Masonic superstitions, all church’s goods where stolen and never returned, Churches and monasteries are state property, we lost our beliefs. Sorry for the o.c. It’s embarassing to be a Neapolitan these days, but it’s not all our fault.

  20. Cao Says:

    Leftists have been working on our youth for at least 40 years. We are bearing the fruits of not paying attention to that now. Thanks for commenting, Paolo.

  21. Paolo Says:

    I agree we were lazy, Cao. Anyway we had a march (80.000 people) in favor of caring for “every” life today, had another one two weeks ago in Rome in support of the offence to the Pope not allowed to speak at the University there, where he was invited (that reading is available and is so full of humanity and cleverness…). Leftist newspapers are quite scary here, today “La Repubblica” opened with an editorial about doctors who want to cure babies after they survive abortion! It’s very impressive for a country where every media supports the same old tedious scare for joy from decades.

  22. Cao Says:

    I don’t know about lazy, Paolo, I know I was busy raising my children, and seemed to have little time for anything else.

    I am glad to hear the conservative movement is still alive in Italy, despite hardships. And I can understand your fear.

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