12/23/2004
Come And Get Some, Troll
if you’ve been following this, you’d be interested to know another intelligent blogger at my park bench, blogged about it, offering his advice to puny nimnuts-the troll. Background is here.
Scat Fights and the Art of Flaming and Trolling
The most notable part being:
I’m certainly not here to defend either Cao or SC&A, especially since they both did a fine job of riposting and parrying all the thrusts directed at them so far.
I also know nothing of this guy over at “The Aggressive Progressive” other than what I’ve read in this particular scat fight. But I do have some remarks of critique from a former flame warrior to a guy who would seem to be aspiring to the title.
- If you are going to start a war of words, remember your weapon. Insults are powerful only in the inverse relation to their ability to be rebutted. If your opening blow sounds like a repackaged homage to Morton Downey Jr., you’re walking into a fight you will ultimately lose nine times out of ten.
- I’m all about colorful epithets to describe people. Really. I think they’re funny. But if you are framing your attacks around epithetical gems like “assclown” as your piece de resistance, I think you’re going to get handed your hat in just about any heated verbal exchange.
- Lastly (and I cannot emphasize this one enough): if your profession is writing or editing, then it should be EXTREMELY apparent in every post, reply, comment and quip without you having to ever bring it up. If you feel the need to reiterate your credentials as a writer or editor in defending yourself in a war of words, or asserting your prowess in the written medium, then you will be virtually guaranteed to look like a guy with water wings trying to cross the English Channel. Imagine going to a cocktail party at Salman Rushdie’s house and having to start off every conversation by reciting your IQ and displaying your laminated Mensa membership card. Your efforts are only going to have the opposite results. The first rule of good writing is broken by mistakes like this. That rule being: show, don’t tell.
Language is a powerful and effective means to both start wars as well as end them. Be sure that if you are going to do either, you put enough thought and consideration into your words so you don’t look like a colorful epithet used as an example in my second bullet point.
Cao’s note: Hey–wise up, AP, the world is watching. And it looks like the agg is all over your ugly face. Poetic justice? I dunno. ’tis the season to be jolly, fa-la-la-la-la-la-la-la-la. I think it’s called karma.
It reminds me of a wonderful conversation I had with a pretty young girl my husband works with, named Jamie. We were at my husband’s Christmas party. I was talking about Taz, how when he was on 15 days’ leave, he looked around when we were at the mall, and said, “mom, these people just don’t know how good they have it.” Jamie looked at me, with a far off look, and said–”I know exactly what he meant.”
Then she went on to tell me this amazing story. Over the past two years, Jamie had been through breast cancer, had a mastectomy, chemotherapy, lost her hair, lost her mother, and had a terrible war going on during this time with her boss, who had allowed her to work at home-but started giving her hell about it when she got sick, and then, when her mother died. She ended up taking a $29k paycut to leave that department, valuing her sanity and emotional health over the money. Then she pulled out pictures of two beautiful little girls, her daughters. During all that time on top of dealing with her illness, she also had to juggle raising those two girls by herself and worrying about what would happen to them if something happened to her. She said when she hears people complain about their family, their mothers in particular, she thinks to herself, “you just don’t know how good you have it. At least you still HAVE your mother.”
Unfortunately, that supervisor who raked her over the coals while she was sick and her mother was dying, is still there. Sadly, I can totally relate to being around and working with people who are trolls, who are narcissitic bullies with no heart–the only satisfaction I have is–in knowing that there is “karma”. I suppose it’s what I learned about charity and giving to others. It’s kind of the Father Flanagan sense of things…I just don’t quite know how to explain it. What you give to the world, you get back, and sometimes, it happens-IN SPADES. The only thing is–I sometimes hope I’m still around to see the world kick these nasty people back in the ass for the terrible things they do to people. Jamie laughed. She knew exactly what I was talking about. By the end of the evening, we were hugging. Amazing.
The moral of the story for AP is, you get what you put out into the world. You certainly don’t have the same level of wit that say-Frank of IMAO has (who stalks Glenn Reynolds and has a whole team of buddy stalkers of which I sometimes take part)-and Frank doesn’t publicly congratulate himself for his literary conquests or for losing elections. Think about it. I certainly don’t want to read about somebody stroking himself all the time. It’s disgusting.
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December 23rd, 2004 at 1:17 pm
When you boil it all down, people come in different flavors and varieties.
Jamie is a fine example of a thoughtful, caring and decent person.
AP is a different sort altogether.
The comparison is telling.
December 23rd, 2004 at 2:54 pm
You’re right. But some of those flavors are distasteful and I’d rather not have them in my spice cabinet, if you know what I mean.
December 24th, 2004 at 6:01 pm
The sad thing is that Mr. AggPro entered his “assclowns” post as his submitted entry in the King of the Blogs contest this week. Check my most recent post if you’d like to see what I had to say (I was being nice).
December 24th, 2004 at 8:00 pm
He’s a disappointing example of punditry, IMHO. Thanks for the heads up.