6 Responses to “Fitna, the movie”

1. ata Says:
   April 1st, 2008 at 3:52 am

   Dear all,

   It is very shockingly amazing to hear and read about the contents of a movie by a Dutch parlimentarian, supposed to be a man with a great sense of responsibility which he is not.

   I really feel very sorry for the voters who voted for such an idiot who rather than bridging the gap among the different cultures and religions is spreading hatred in the world by twisting the facts.

   The fact should not be forgotten that Mr. Wilders is using rather misusing his position and the EU shoulder to fulfill his ill willed agendas to bring enemity between Muslims and Christians. What does he really want???

   I would like to conclude on the yesterday’s report by Vatican that Islam has outnumbered the others and have become the most observed religion of the world, may i ask why???

   Do both things have any connection??

   love and peace for all

2. Cao Says:
   April 1st, 2008 at 7:36 pm

   Why is he an idiot? Because he is exposing the truth about the texts of the koran and the actions of the terrorists which are fueled by those texts?

   I think you need a reality check.

   This is about freedom of speech for people other than muslims; in the western world, we are allowed an opinion that does not agree. We are allowed freedom of speech that points out moonbattery that blindly supports radical Islam.

   That is…until the powers of political correctness manage to crush dissent like they have in the Arab world.

   What about regular muslims who do not support terrorism? This is about their right to disagree with the jihadists, too.

3. ata Says:
   April 2nd, 2008 at 12:39 am

   Hi

   What opinion of speech in europe are you fooling us and yourself with? where you cant say or print a single word against the holocaust, or you face the prison???

   You have a wrong conception about Muslims and terrorism. Everywhere they were forced to resist, since crusades to Palestine, to Iraq to Afghanistan they are attacked and when they resist to win their freedom back they are called terrorists??? Is this what you call freedom of speech.

   I am not saying that everyone in europe is like that because there are some people still with a living conscience who come out in the streets in millions and demonstrate against this so-called war on terror and freedom of speech.

   No matter what religion you are from but plz try to help humanity rather than destroying it. Evceryone has to go back to God and reply one day.

   There is a saying in my native language “dont call my bad mother names, i wont call your good mother names”

   thanks

4. Cao Says:
   April 2nd, 2008 at 4:16 am

   Riiight. And the Crusaders were not responding to 700 years of Islamic conquest…The Truth about Islamic Crusades and Imperialism

   Historical facts say that Islam has been imperialistic—and would still like to be, if only for religious reasons. Many Muslim clerics, scholars, and activists, for example, would like to impose Islamic law around the world. Historical facts say that Islam, including Muhammad, launched their own Crusades against Christianity long before the European Crusades.

   630 Two years before Muhammad’s death of a fever, he launches the Tabuk Crusades, in which he led 30,000 jihadists against the Byzantine Christians.

   632—634 Under the Caliphate of Abu Bakr the Muslim Crusaders reconquer and sometimes conquer for the first time the polytheists of Arabia. These Arab polytheists had to convert to Islam or die. They did not have the choice of remaining in their faith and paying a tax. Islam does not allow for religious freedom.

   633 The Muslim Crusaders, led by Khalid al—Walid, a superior but bloodthirsty military commander, whom Muhammad nicknamed the Sword of Allah for his ferocity in battle (Tabari, 8:158 / 1616—17), conquer the city of Ullays along the Euphrates River (in today’s Iraq). Khalid captures and beheads so many that a nearby canal, into which the blood flowed, was called Blood Canal (Tabari 11:24 / 2034—35).

   634 At the Battle of Yarmuk in Syria the Muslim Crusaders defeat the Byzantines. Today Osama bin Laden draws inspiration from the defeat, and especially from an anecdote about Khalid al—Walid. An unnamed Muslim remarks: ‘The Romans are so numerous and the Muslims so few.’ To this Khalid retorts: ‘How few are the Romans, and how many the Muslims! Armies become numerous only with victory and few only with defeat, not by the number of men. By God, I would love it . . . if the enemy were twice as many’ (Tabari, 11:94 / 2095). Osama bin Ladin quotes Khalid and says that his fighters love death more than we in the West love life. This philosophy of death probably comes from a verse like Sura 2:96. Muhammad assesses the Jews: ‘[Prophet], you are sure to find them [the Jews] clinging to life more eagerly than any other people, even polytheists’ (MAS Abdel Haleem, The Qur’an, Oxford UP, 2004; first insertion in brackets is Haleem’s; the second mine).

   634—644 The Caliphate of Umar ibn al—Khattab, who is regarded as particularly brutal.

   635 Muslim Crusaders besiege and conquer of Damascus

   636 Muslim Crusaders defeat Byzantines decisively at Battle of Yarmuk.

   637 Muslim Crusaders conquer Iraq at the Battle of al—Qadisiyyah (some date it in 635 or 636)

   638 Muslim Crusaders conquer and annex Jerusalem, taking it from the Byzantines.

   638—650 Muslim Crusaders conquer Iran, except along Caspian Sea.

   639—642 Muslim Crusaders conquer Egypt.

   641 Muslim Crusaders control Syria and Palestine.

   643—707 Muslim Crusaders conquer North Africa.

   644 Caliph Umar is assassinated by a Persian prisoner of war; Uthman ibn Affan is elected third Caliph, who is regarded by many Muslims as gentler than Umar.

   644—650 Muslim Crusaders conquer Cyprus, Tripoli in North Africa, and establish Islamic rule in Iran, Afghanistan, and Sind.

   656 Caliph Uthman is assassinated by disgruntled Muslim soldiers; Ali ibn Abi Talib, son—in—law and cousin to Muhammad, who married the prophet’s daughter Fatima through his first wife Khadija, is set up as Caliph.

   656 Battle of the Camel, in which Aisha, Muhammad’s wife, leads a rebellion against Ali for not avenging Uthman’s assassination. Ali’s partisans win.

   657 Battle of Siffin between Ali and Muslim governor of Jerusalem, arbitration goes against Ali

   661 Murder of Ali by an extremist; Ali’s supporters acclaim his son Hasan as next Caliph, but he comes to an agreement with Muawiyyah I and retires to Medina.

   661—680 the Caliphate of Muawiyyah I. He founds Umayyid dynasty and moves capital from Medina to Damascus

   673—678 Arabs besiege Constantinople, capital of Byzantine Empire

   680 Massacre of Hussein (Muhammad’s grandson), his family, and his supporters in Karbala, Iraq.

   691 Dome of the Rock is completed in Jerusalem, only six decades after Muhammad’s death.

   705 Abd al—Malik restores Umayyad rule.

   710—713 Muslim Crusaders conquer the lower Indus Valley.

   711—713 Muslim Crusaders conquer Spain and impose the kingdom of Andalus. This article recounts how Muslims today still grieve over their expulsion 700 years later. They seem to believe that the land belonged to them in the first place.

   719 Cordova, Spain, becomes seat of Arab governor

   732 The Muslim Crusaders stopped at the Battle of Poitiers; that is, Franks (France) halt Arab advance

   749 The Abbasids conquer Kufah and overthrow Umayyids

   756 Foundation of Umayyid amirate in Cordova, Spain, setting up an independent kingdom from Abbasids

   762 Foundation of Baghdad

   785 Foundation of the Great Mosque of Cordova

   789 Rise of Idrisid amirs (Muslim Crusaders) in Morocco; foundation of Fez; Christoforos, a Muslim who converted to Christianity, is executed.

   800 Autonomous Aghlabid dynasty (Muslim Crusaders) in Tunisia

   807 Caliph Harun al—Rashid orders the destruction of non—Muslim prayer houses and of the church of Mary Magdalene in Jerusalem

   809 Aghlabids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Sardinia, Italy

   813 Christians in Palestine are attacked; many flee the country

   831 Muslim Crusaders capture Palermo, Italy; raids in Southern Italy

   850 Caliph al—Matawakkil orders the destruction of non—Muslim houses of prayer

   855 Revolt of the Christians of Hims (Syria)

   837—901 Aghlabids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Sicily, raid Corsica, Italy, France

   869—883 Revolt of black slaves in Iraq

   909 Rise of the Fatimid Caliphate in Tunisia; these Muslim Crusaders occupy Sicily, Sardinia

   928—969 Byzantine military revival, they retake old territories, such as Cyprus (964) and Tarsus (969)

   937 The Ikhshid, a particularly harsh Muslim ruler, writes to Emperor Romanus, boasting of his control over the holy places

   937 The Church of the Resurrection (known as Church of Holy Sepulcher in Latin West) is burned down by Muslims; more churches in Jerusalem are attacked

   960 Conversion of Qarakhanid Turks to Islam

   966 Anti—Christian riots in Jerusalem

   969 Fatimids (Muslim Crusaders) conquer Egypt and found Cairo

   c. 970 Seljuks enter conquered Islamic territories from the East

   973 Israel and southern Syria are again conquered by the Fatimids

   1003 First persecutions by al—Hakim; the Church of St. Mark in Fustat, Egypt, is destroyed

   1009 Destruction of the Church of the Resurrection by al—Hakim (see 937)

   1012 Beginning of al—Hakim’s oppressive decrees against Jews and Christians

   1015 Earthquake in Palestine; the dome of the Dome of the Rock collapses

   1031 Collapse of Umayyid Caliphate and establishment of 15 minor independent dynasties throughout Muslim Andalus

   1048 Reconstruction of the Church of the Resurrection completed

   1050 Creation of Almoravid (Muslim Crusaders) movement in Mauretania; Almoravids (aka Murabitun) are coalition of western Saharan Berbers; followers of Islam, focusing on the Quran, the hadith, and Maliki law.

   1055 Seljuk Prince Tughrul enters Baghdad, consolidation of the Seljuk Sultanate

   1055 Confiscation of property of Church of the Resurrection

   1071 Battle of Manzikert, Seljuk Turks (Muslim Crusaders) defeat Byzantines and occupy much of Anatolia

   1071 Turks (Muslim Crusaders) invade Palestine

   1073 Conquest of Jerusalem by Turks (Muslim Crusaders)

   1075 Seljuks (Muslim Crusaders) capture Nicea (Iznik) and make it their capital in Anatolia

   1076 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) (see 1050) conquer western Ghana

   1085 Toledo is taken back by Christian armies

   1086 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) (see 1050) send help to Andalus, Battle of Zallaca

   1090—1091 Almoravids (Muslim Crusaders) occupy all of Andalus except Saragossa and Balearic Islands

   1094 Byzantine emperor Alexius Comnenus I asks western Christendom for help against Seljuk invasions of his territory; Seljuks are Muslim Turkish family of eastern origins; see 970

   1095 Pope Urban II preaches first Crusade; they capture Jerusalem in 1099

   So it is only after all of the Islamic aggressive invasions that Western Christendom launches its first Crusades.

   “Helping humanity” is about telling the truth.

   There is a saying in my native language: “sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me.”

5. Cao Says:
   April 2nd, 2008 at 4:28 am

   Go here for a petition to support Geert Wilders.

   By the way-my opinion of free speech that I’m ‘fooling myself with’ is our first amendment, which Europe doesn’t have. The opinion of free speech is based on the EU deciding that preaching the bible is considered a hate crime. It’s also based on European dhimmitude in Britain that caused the pursuit of the British blogger Lionheart, which ended in his arrest for “suspicion of stirring up racial hatred” - when Islam is not a RACE.

   This movie is an undercover documentary about what is happening in British mosques and what they say about the kafireem.

   Also see:

   Jihad USA Part 1
   Jihad USA Part 2
   Jihad USA Part 3
   Jihad USA Part 4

   It is important to understanding the war we’re in, the war the jihadists think they’re in, and how it effects us…who are considered in Islam to be the ‘unbelievers’.

6. Cao Says:
   April 2nd, 2008 at 5:12 am

   oooh and one more thing while I’m at it-from Van Helsing at Moonbattery dot com…:

   Maybe the affection moonbats feel toward Muslims comes from a longing for moral clarity. There’s quite a contrast between the liberal swamp of nuance and parsing and sanctimonious moral relativism on one hand, and the Islamic code on the other. For Muslims, morality is quite simple: they are good, and everyone else is bad:

   A question-and-answer session with Imam Abdul Makin in an East London mosque asks why Allah would tell Muslims to kill and rape innocent non-Muslims, including their wives and daughters, according to Islam Watch.

   “Because non-Muslims are never innocent, they are guilty of denying Allah and his prophet,” the Imam says, according to the report. “If you don’t believe me, here is the legal authority, the top Muslim lawyer of Britain.”

   The lawyer, Anjem Choudary, backs up the Imam’s position, saying that all Muslims are innocent.

   “You are innocent if you are a Muslim,” Choudary tells the BBC. “Then you are innocent in the eyes of God. If you are not a Muslim, then you are guilty of not believing in God.”
   Choudary said he would not condemn a Muslim for any action.

   “As a Muslim, I must support my Muslim brothers and sisters,” Choudary said. “I must have hatred to everything that is not Muslim.”

   The chilling interview with Abdul Makin, who endorses murder and rape, can be found on Islam Watch. Here’s video of Choudary sharing his enlightenment:

   “Any moonbat who tries to play the “Yeah but Christians are just as bad” card renounces any claim to be taken seriously.”-Van Helsing

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