Fruits of Kerry’s 180: Wherefore Art Thou Wanting?

    Their understanding
    Begins to swell and the approaching tide
    Will shortly fill the reasonable shores
    That now lie foul and muddy.

    –William Shakespeare

You don’t have to be Shakespeare to know that something lies foul and muddy over much of the information that should have been released to the public with the signing and submission of Sen. Jean-François Kerrie’s Standard Form-180. Why not let there be a cleansing tide of understanding to fill our reasonable shores, o Senator?

For those who ponder why in God’s name we’re STILL pursuing this, be it known: We feel it a reasonable request that a 20-year veteran of the United States Senate (and apparently a Vietnam veteran, all medaled and shiny we think) to tell the truth and nothing but. In fact, given that Kerry had wrapped himself gloriously in that War Hero banner during his run for the presidency (and might… again?), such bold honesty would mollify many minds (mayhaps) and surely make up for our tisk-tisking over a wee holiday excursion said War Hero made, once upon a time, to Cambodia.

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We understand that this French-looking Taxachusetts native might be a wee leary of distributing more information from his records, given that little, um, factoid that slipped out about his sub-presidential academic achievements at Yale. But, really, we simply want the truth, dear Senator. That to which even Boy Scouts aspire.

OK, perhaps he’ll better understand this plea en français. *Eh bien* :roll:
Cher monsieur le sénateur, nous vous poussons libérer votre histoire complete! C’est tout!

And, to the blogosphere: write or fax Kerry, protest the faux dégagement of his dossiers and maintenez avec le blogment on this sujet très important.

The mainstream media are largely shirking their responsibility for pursuing the truth. Civil servants — even French-looking ones — owe the public honesty, duty, and trust. In fact, we PAY the Junior Senator from the People’s Republic of Massachusetts for his rollicking rants on the Downing Street Memo and the like. We deserve some level of honesty at very least. JFK the Lesser shouldn’t be allowed to squirm out of this one.

The question of his military discharge, for example. (Frankly, the only kind of discharge I care to hear about from a French-looking senator.) Beldar Blog has posted on Kerry’s curious discharge, as reported in the New York Sun (subcription required, sorry — heck, just read Beldar Blog).

Hmmm. So many questions. So much foul and muddy. So little… understanding. Merde.

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  3. Annuit Coeptis says:

    If you want to know what kind of vaction he was haveing in Cambodia I suggest a veiwing of,” Apocolypse Now,” Oh and yeah – At least he went to Nam and served in a combat situation, funny that you claim to have respect for Vets and deride them in the same sentence.

  4. Cao says:

    A vet who spent 4 months in Nam with his own Super 8 video camera to film his exploits while running away from combat and writing his own paperwork in order to get out of the Navy is a funny way of thinking of a “veteran” who deserves our respect. mheh. But libs think anybody who wore the uniform regardless of what they did when they were wearing it commands respect.

    I suppose it depends if somebody honestly believed in ‘duty, honor, country’. He apparently didn’t believe in duty, he did his best to get out of his tour and his commitment to the navy. He originally signed up for a deferment to France but was turned down. As far as honor, he threw that away when he threw away his medals and joined as a leader of Vietnam Vets against the war, meeting with them to kill senators. As far as his feelings about his country is concerned, he owns 6 homes, and several of them are not in the United States. He’s been a poodle to rich women all his life and is living off the money of a dead republican while he’s screw that guy’s widow. Nice arrangement if you can find one, but the guy hasn’t really worked a day in his life. To think that he even knows what the “common man” is like and what his experiences are like, with a middle name of Forbes and going to Swiss Boarding schools as a child is a stretch of the imagination.

    It seems that only cowards who don’t have the balls to serve are the ones who support the guy. Anyone who has served honorably, that I’ve run across, resents the guy. And over 250 swift vets, including his entire chain of command were glad to be rid of him because he was a danger to himself and the rest of his brothers in uniform in a combat zone.

  5. Brad says:

    Annuit,
    The only apocolypse that Honoi John Kerry knows about happened to him this past November. Remember how America so soundly rejected him? He and his party are still shell shocked..

  6. Annuit Coeptis says:

    Why don’t you try a reliable source of info for a change instead of the half brained partisan mind control stuff you normally like to indulge in because it tells you what you like to hear,since you believe that his whole tour was only four months. That my friend is only his time as a swift boat captain. not his entire service record.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry#Military_service_.281966-1970.29

    please feel free to search other topics I think you will find that this is a very open source of info.

    As far as Cambodai goes…If you think the US Navy was not involved in covert operations out side of the borders of Vietnam you are mistaken, Kerry is describing a secret war that is still largely classified to this day, and the people he was addressing are well aware of its existance.

    Lasley soldiers take many things into a theater including compact cameras I know this because a proud mother once showed me a picture of her son and his unit menacing an Iraqi corpse (gulf I) with thier combat knives. And again the indisputable facts are that Kerry went and saw combat and Bush did not. As far as wealth is concerned I think the Bush family probably has more money than Kerry came from, so the eat the rich argument doesn’t hold water in my boat.

  7. Cao says:

    Oh that’s right, he ran weapons to the Khmer rouge which is probably where he got his illegal communist Chinese assault rifle. bwhahahaha! why don’t you crawl back under that rock? I’m not really interested in your drivel.

    AJC, 8/11: Vietnam communists are advising the Islamic terrorists on how to handle John Kerry: Wound him slightly and often and he’ll leave the Middle East in four months.

    Cleveland Plain Dealer, Kevin O’Brien, 8/11
    Are they truly hoping that Americans will focus so cooperatively on John Kerry’s four months of doing the right thing in Vietnam that they’ll forget that he’s spent the rest of his adult life doing the wrong thing with nearly perfect consistency?

    LTTE, St. Petersburg Times, 8/11:
    For instance, why did he leave his crew in Vietnam after serving just over four months?

    LTTE, LA Times, 08/10:
    As far as I can tell the reasons Kerry offers for people to vote for him are that he served in Vietnam for four months on a Swift boat 35 years ago;

    Marsha Mercer, Tampa Tribune, 08/09:

    Kerry received three Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star during his four months in Vietnam.

    Boston Herald, op-Ed, 08/07:

    By making his four months of service in Vietnam the centerpiece of his campaign for the presidency, Sen.
    John Kerry himself invites further scrutiny of that service.

    LTTE, Newsday, 08/06:
    He avoided hot topics like abortion, *** marriage and gun control and spent most of his time peddling stories of four months in Vietnam 35 years ago.

    AJC, the Vent, 08/05:
    John Kerry spent four months fighting communism and then spent the next 30 years fighting capitalism.

    Linda Chavez, 08/05/2004:
    But Mr. Kerry’s insistence on making his four-month tour of duty in Vietnam the centerpiece of his campaign could backfire as Americans learn more about what he did in that country and, more important, what he did when he returned home.

    David Brooks, 07/31:
    For though convention viewers may not be aware of it, Kerry has actually had a career since his four months in Vietnam — mostly in the Senate.

    Cal Thomas, 08/03:

    Kerry repeatedly brings up his four-month service in Vietnam.

    Adam Nagourney, NYT, 08/01, reporting Republican spin without correction:
    Entering a four week run-up to the unusually late Republican convention, Mr. Bush’s aides said they had laid out a week-by-week in plan in which Mr. Bush would talk about his accomplishments and his second-term agenda. But they said they would also try to blunt what Democrats and Republicans said was a successful four-day Democratic convention focused on Mr. Kerry’s veteran credentials by turning attention from what they described as his brief four-month tour in Vietnam to his 20 years in Washington.

    LTTE, San Diego Tribune, 8/3
    He did spend four months in Vietnam. Since his return, the only consistent factors of his life have been undermining our national defense, and promoting himself.

    there are an awful lot of people out there who can attest to a four month tour. Sounds to me like Gilligan’s Island. Regardless of whether or not he served before that, all the medals he threw over the fence were gathered in that time; the paperwork for them, unbelievably, written by him, just like the footage that was taken of himself. This guy is so stuck on himself he can’t see how pompous he is, or what people really think about him!

    And Ollie North who actually served some time had something to say about it, too!

    Dear John,

    As usual, you have it wrong. You don’t have a beef with President George Bush about your war record. He’s been exceedingly generous about your military service. Your complaint is with the 2.5 million of us who served honorably in a war that ended 29 years ago and which you, not the president, made the centerpiece of this campaign.

    I talk to a lot of vets, John, and this really isn’t about your medals or how you got them. Like you, I have a Silver Star and a Bronze Star. I only have two Purple Hearts, though.

    I turned down the others so that I could stay with the Marines in my rifle platoon. But I think you might agree with me, though I’ve never heard you say it, that the officers always got more medals than they earned and the youngsters we led never got as many medals as they deserved.

    This really isn’t about how early you came home from that war, either, John. There have always been guys in every war who want to go home. There are also lots of guys, like those in my rifle platoon in Vietnam, who did a full 13 months in the field. And there are, thankfully, lots of young Americans today in Iraq and Afghanistan who volunteered to return to war because, as one of them told me in Ramadi a few weeks ago, “the job isn’t finished.”

    Nor is this about whether you were in Cambodia on Christmas Eve, 1968. Heck John, people get lost going on vacation. If you got lost, just say so. Your campaign has admitted that you now know that you really weren’t in Cambodia that night and that Richard Nixon wasn’t really president when you thought he was. Now would be a good time to explain to us how you could have all that bogus stuff “seared” into your memory — especially since you want to have your finger on our nation’s nuclear trigger.

    But that’s not really the problem, either. The trouble you’re having, John, isn’t about your medals or coming home early or getting lost — or even Richard Nixon. The issue is what you did to us when you came home, John.

    When you got home, you co-founded Vietnam Veterans Against the War and wrote “The New Soldier,” which denounced those of us who served — and were still serving — on the battlefields of a thankless war. Worst of all, John, you then accused me — and all of us who served in Vietnam — of committing terrible crimes and atrocities.

    On April 22, 1971, under oath, you told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that you had knowledge that American troops “had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the country side of South Vietnam.” And you admitted on television that “yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed.”

    And for good measure you stated, “(America is) more guilty than any other body, of violations of (the) Geneva Conventions … the torture of prisoners, the killing of prisoners.”

    Your “antiwar” statements and activities were painful for those of us carrying the scars of Vietnam and trying to move on with our lives. And for those who were still there, it was even more hurtful. But those who suffered the most from what you said and did were the hundreds of American prisoners of war being held by Hanoi. Here’s what some of them endured because of you, John:

    Capt. James Warner had already spent four years in Vietnamese custody when he was handed a copy of your testimony by his captors. Warner says that for his captors, your statements “were proof I deserved to be punished.” He wasn’t released until March 14, 1973.

    Maj. Kenneth Cordier, an Air Force pilot who was in Vietnamese custody for 2,284 days, says his captors “repeated incessantly” your one-liner about being “the last man to die” for a lost cause. Cordier was released March 4, 1973.

    Navy Lt. Paul Galanti says your accusations “were as demoralizing as solitary (confinement) … and a prime reason the war dragged on.” He remained in North Vietnamese hands until February 12, 1973.

    John, did you think they would forget? When Tim Russert asked about your claim that you and others in Vietnam committed “atrocities,” instead of standing by your sworn testimony, you confessed that your words “were a bit over the top.” Does that mean you lied under oath? Or does it mean you are a war criminal? You can’t have this one both ways, John. Either way, you’re not fit to be a prison guard at Abu Ghraib, much less commander in chief.

    One last thing, John. In 1988, Jane Fonda said: “I would like to say something … to men who were in Vietnam, who I hurt, or whose pain I caused to deepen because of things that I said or did. I was trying to help end the killing and the war, but there were times when I was thoughtless and careless about it and I’m … very sorry that I hurt them. And I want to apologize to them and their families.”

    Even Jane Fonda apologized. Will you, John?

    Lt. Col. Oliver North, USMC (Ret)

    You’d better go and email all the 250+ swiftboats veterans too, while you’re at it. I’m sure they’ll want to know that what they saw firsthand is false. I’m sure they’ll look forward to being called a bunch of liars by a liberal yellow bellied sapsucker like you.

  8. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cao_Dai says:

    Keep arguing hanoi Jane
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cao_Dai

  9. Annuit, if you can toss out a Wikipedia entry (link was broken, but no matter) and honestly call it a “reliable source”, then I’m not sure you should be trolling so loudly. Anyone can edit or update Wiki entries, if I am not mistaken. As reliable as you want it to be, I guess.

    In return, I toss back the reliable source of several hundred real Vietnam vets who pretty much agree to a man that Kerry was no War Hero. Read “Unfit for Command,” unless you’re afraid that you might learn something you didn’t want to.

  10. Annuit, was that you cowering behind another Wikipedia entry? You are pretty prolific with that browser. And, pretty sneaky. But I bet Blogmamma Cao could find you real easy if she wanted to.

    Eh, but why bother. Just another mindless moonbat troll.

  11. In fact, the more I read about Cao Dai, the more cool it sounds. A “High Place”. High and Mighty. Yup, that’s sounding pretty much like Cao’s Blog.

    Followers of Cao Dai believe that its teachings, symbolism and organization were communicated directly from God, and even the construction of the Tay Ninh Holy See had divine guidance.

    What a nice compliment! :grin: Cao, maybe you should rename yer blog to “Cao Dai”! :mrgreen:

  12. I would choose the info on Wikipedia over the the stuff you guys are putting up here any day, really this sight is one BIG troll, so what ever.

  13. Lisa Gilliam says:

    Cao I echo your sentiments hear.Men such as my father still believe in honor and virtue things that are foreign to people who support Kerry.Annuit men like my dad frown on frauds,liars,and traitors.They had theirs stolen from em’.Also JFK,Truman,and Eisenhower,never bragged about their service to their country,and they all these men were officers,and they didn’t serve only four four months!::roll:

  14. Cao says:

    thanks, Lisa, I always appreciate your jumping in and commenting, since you’re one of the REAL patriotic democrats who recognizes how far to the left the democratic party has drifted.

    How interesting. I’m considered Hanoi Jane now? HA! Jane Fonda communist ties still run red as red can be! She recently admitted the only thing she’s sorry about is being photographed on top of that communist tank that was used to shoot down American pilots. She’s not really sorry for her behavior in the least!~ Jane Fonda and her ex-husband the ugly and disgusting Tom Hayden, are still as anti-war and communist in their politics as they were 20 something years ago. Many of them feel revived again because they have a cause to complain about!

    The libs can’t stand it when we call John-boy Hanoi John, but he’s the one with the close relationship with Madame Binh and the Vietnamese communists, after all. tsk tsk!

    People (illiterate idiots with no class who just come to throw insults) really like to throw my name around and mispronounce it, sayng they’ll slaughter a Cao and things like that. For short, my name is Cao. Pronounced “key” and the whole thing is Caoilfhionn. Caoilfhionn is irish gaelic. Not that anyone here is interested, but at least the libs could stop insinuating that it means something that it doesn’t as in that wikipedia reference to Cao Dai. Yes, there is an obscure vietnamese religion that is sometimes associated with the protest of french rule in Vietnam, but I have nothing whatsoever to do with that.

    The name Cao is just a shortened version of Caoilfhionn since people find it difficult not only to pronounce but to spell. I should demand that you liberal idiots spell it correctly and only address me like Caoilfhionn since only my friends call me Cao.

  15. And of course, Annuit, I envisioned you’d write that about Wikipedia vs “Unfit for Command” or whatever we spew, for that matter. You lib kooks are so predictible, in a fun sorta way. :grin:

    And of course I knew about Caoilfhionn vs. Cao, the abbreviation… I simply can never spell Caoilfhionn. :oops:

    Tho… “Cao Dai” does seem quite an apt metaphor, if you think about it. (No disrespect intended, Caoilfhionn :mrgreen: )

  16. Cao says:

    That’s ok, The MaryHunter. It IS sort of funny, but every time I think they’ve hit a new low with the personal insults and ad hominem attacks, they find a way to go lower. THAT makes me laugh even more. I wonder if this Annuit person is Kerry’s biographer. These guys are covering up for the guy and trying to silence what I think is a perfectly reasonable thing to blog about and pursue the Senator on. I mean he makes a promise to the American people on national television but doesn’t deliver the goods. And we’re supposed to just believe in the guy (blindly like these people) because he once war a uniform, despite all the things he did against the United States and against our actions in Vietnam and aiding abetting the enemy when he still wore that uniform? And now he’s enacting a repeat performance with the War in Iraq with the Downing Street memos which Britain found to be–not worth pursuing because what is in those memos is absolutely nothing new! What’s new is Kerry wants to impeach another Republican president. What a spoiled *** and sore loser he is!

    hehe the lengths idiots will go to to take the discussion off track! I just love how they turn it into a personal attack on me, too, that makes it all worth while.

    Too bad the latte drinking leftists have their little designer panties in a bunch over our perfectly reasonable expectation that Kerry would simply follow through on his promise to the American people on public television! In true John Kerry form, he’s absolutely made a fool out of himself! Again! This is one political landmine that he hasn’t been able to dodge! But the way he keeps skirting the issue, re-releasing records that already were out there, releasing them to his biographer, and so on, makes it even more laughable. It’s like a song and dance show!

    What is more and more clear to me is–how does someone stay in public office when he has no standards, no principles and lies like this to the American people repeatedly?

    Kerry’s hometown newspaper ought to get a load of this story, I think I’ll contact them, as well! Annuit’s going to have a fulltime job of damage control, he ought to try and keep his boy in line a little bit–it would be much less work for him.

  17. SSgt Yatahey says:

    Annuit Coeptis — you really should seriously consider changing your Moniker to something that’s more suitable … like “Annual Cunnilingus”, since you seem to provide so much oral stimulation.

    As for your B O Y John “HANOI FONDA” Skerry serving in combat — how stupid can you possibly be? :roll:

    As a seasoned ‘Nam Vet who served TWO ******* TOURS – DUHHH; that’s TWENTY-SIX ******* MONTHS IN THE JUNGLES for idiots like you … where in the hell do you get off, thinking that the FISH-EYED ******, John- B O Y – “HANOI JOHN” Skerry” was a ‘Nam Vet when it’s been PROVEN the little ***** only served FOUR MONTHS riding up and down a damn river in a boat??? :evil:

    Lastly; let me tell you something, you TWINKLE-TOED COMMUNIST ****-BAG — the Owner of this Blog, Cao is certainly one very fine LADY who knows far more about military and politics than you’ll ever dream about!

    So, don’t you EVER compare her to that MORONIC IDIOT, John “HANOI FONDA” Skerry ever again — you, of all people, should show respect by addressing her as … Caoilfhionn … from now on!

    Do you understand me – is English a 2nd language for you??? :twisted:

  18. Kender says:

    Wow SSgt Yatahey…I was going to say something to annuit but I heard R. Lee Ermeys voice coming from your post and snapped to attention, knowing I can’t top that.

    Sir yes Sir.

  19. Cao says:

    Not surprisingly, he knows Lee Ermey, Kender. SSGT, you have such a way with words! :razz:

  20. SSgt Yatahey says:

    LOL @ Kender – yes; I personally served with Lee Ermey, not only during our 2nd tour in ‘Nam but, also as a Junior Drill Instructor under him for one month, until I was given my first platoon.

    Lee and I still talk to each other several times a month, and live about 200 miles from each other; both of us living in separate areas of the Southwestern desert — even the Roadrunners are afraid of our voices. :mrgreen:

    Cao, Sweetheart — you know how I get when some jackass attacks you … I won’t sit back and let it go by!

    OOHHRRAAHH – Semper Fi – Do Or Die – 8th and I – Carry On!

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