Being that so many libs/leftists have come here complaining about a “Rovian Conspiracy” and Karl Rove is a Nazi and all that other hogwash, I got wind of what he said in his speech about democrats and 9/11 and I couldn’t help but laugh.
“Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 in the attacks and prepared for war; liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers.”
bwhahahahahaha! Who can argue with THAT? These guys think the guys who are cutting off heads would make a good houseguest, apparently and would happily put them up for the night. Even leftists in Europe are starting a 10 Euro campaign (only the leftists look like such sorry sots that they probably can’t afford the 10 Euros) to fund the terrorists in Iraq. That is practically impossible to imagine, but it’s actually happening! How are the democrats in the US any different?
Turns out that far-left groups in western Europe are carrying on a campaign dubbed Ten Euros for the Resistance, offering aid and comfort to the car bombers, kidnappers, and snipers trying to destabilize the fledgling Iraq government. In the words of one Italian website, Iraq Libero (Free Iraq), the funds are meant for those fighting the occupanti imperialisti. The groups are an odd collection, made up largely of Marxists and Maoists, sprinkled with an array of Arab emigres and aging, old-school fascists, according to Lorenzo Vidino, an analyst on European terrorism based at The Investigative Project in Washington, D.C. “It’s the old anticapitalist, anti-U.S., anti-Israel crowd,” says Vidino, who has been to their gatherings, where he saw activists from Austria, Denmark, Germany, and Italy. “The glue that binds them together is anti-Americanism.” The groups are working on an October conference to further support “the Iraqi Resistance.” A key goal is to expand backing for the insurgents from the fringe left to the broader antiwar and antiglobalization movements.
Senator Richard J. Durbin, Democrat of Illinois, had the nerve to compare American mistreatment of detainees to the acts of “Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime – Pol Pot or others.” Whose side are these guys ON, anyway? And how far left does it sound that tricky Dick is, as compared to the Maoists Marxists and Fascists?
AWWW. Let’s get some more sensitivity training so that we’re more sensitive to the NEEDS of the terrorists.
Rove also pointed out (and NRO says Rove was right about Moveon.org):
“In the wake of 9/11, conservatives believed it was time to unleash the might and power of the United States military against the Taliban; in the wake of 9/11 liberals believed it was time to submit a petition.” Rove continued: “I am not joking. Submitting a petition is precisely what MoveOn.org did. It was a petition imploring the powers that be to ‘use moderation and restraint in responding to the terrorist attacks against the United States.’ “
All I have to say is Karl Rove, you rock and I hope you continue to have the balls to say the truth to the American people, despite liberals like Ted Kennedy who are foaming at the mouth like a bunch of rabid dogs over it. If democrats are going to keep backing up moveon.org, they’re going to keep further distancing themselves from reality and the rest of the American people.
…there is solid evidence that MoveOn did in fact oppose the war in Afghanistan, and that MoveOn founders Joan Blades and Wes Boyd hired Pariser in significant part because of his activism against the war.
Of course! That’s part of the signature of these yellow-bellied sapsuckers.
Ted Kennedy’s recent comments to Rumsfeld are absolutely unbelievable.
TED KENNEDY: Secretary Rumsfeld, as you know, we are in serious trouble in Iraq, and this war has been consistently and grossly mismanaged, and we are now in a seemingly intractable quagmire. Our troops are dying, and there really is no end in sight.
Our troops deserve better, Mr Secretary, I think the American people deserve better. They deserve competency, and they deserve the facts. In baseball it’s three strikes and you’re out. What is it for the Secretary of Defense?
DONALD RUMSFELD: Well, that is quite a statement. First, let me say that there isn’t a person at this table who agrees with you that we’re in a quagmire, and that there’s no end in sight. The suggestion by you that people – me or others – are painting a rosy picture is false. I think that the comments you made are certainly yours to make, and I don’t agree with them.
For people to say that democrats are even REASONABLE and living in REALITY is beyond the imagination. They’re totally unhinged. The fact that the Iraqi people are thankful for what we did and grateful that we’re sacrificing American blood and treasure is apparent on the faces of the children who are delighted to see American troops–to the point where the soldiers have had to ask them not to come running toward their tanks when they come riding through- and their parents grateful smiles. You can see evidence of this at Michael Yon’s Online Magazine. Michael Yon is reporting from the frontlines, not some cozy hotel in Baghdad.
Thanks to Mudville and Outside the Beltway
Awesome job! Disney was fun for my son, and miserable for me…hehe. Thanks for the call, it meant so much.
While on vacation my wife got me a book…I want to share some of it. The name of the book is “Why I Am A Regan Conservative by Michael K. Deaver”. I wanted to share something out of the first chapter…the words of Robert L. Bartley….” Being a Conservative gives you a grip on reality. At least, that’s waht I think I’ve learned over my lifetime. Conservative principles and conservative approaches start in the real world as it exists, not in some imaginary utopia. While this certainly doesn’t preclude reform and improvement, it does make you feel likely to get carried away by the purely abstract.
Robert ends the chapter with an excerpt from a poem by Rudyard Kipling called “The Gods of the Copybook Headings”:
With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch.
They denied that the Moon was Stilton, they denied she was even Dutch.
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings.
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.
When the Cambrian measures were forming, they promised perpetual peace.They swore, if we gave up our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
continued…But when we disarmed they sold us and delivered us bound to our foe, and the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “Stick to the devil you know.”
On the first Feminin Sandstones we were promised the fuller life.
Which started by loving our neighbor and ended with loving his wife.
till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the copybook headings said: “The wages of sin is death.”
In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all, by robbing selective Peter to pay for collective Paul; But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money coul buy, And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said, “If you don’t work you die.”
Then the Gods of Market tumbled, and their smooth tounged wizards withdrew, and the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true.
That All is not God that Glitters, and Two and two make four– and the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.
Euro-Hippies Support Iraqi Terrorists
On a tip from Fox News and Cao’s Blog, I hopped on over to this U.S. News and World Report article. “Eurolefties fund Iraq insurgency” proclaims the headline. It seems that far-kook AntAmerican wackjob organizations (linked from in t…
1. Ted Kennedy is an idiot! The National Drunk has now become the National Idiot. Shall we count “the strikes” against the senior Senator from Massachusetts?
2. Libs/Dems/whoever need to quit whining about Karl Rove.
Gotta run. I have to work this morning.
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This comment may seem out of place here, yet I feel it is very to the point here.
Most do not know or care about the laws of cause and affect. Here is a grand one: “What you resist persists”
Why, because you focus energy on it. Anything that has energy focused on it grows. That’s just a physical and spiritual fact.
If you want to make someone go away, or piss them off – ignor them. Do not give them the attention and publicity of a reply. Act as if they do not exist – go on without even looking at them. That will take the wind out of their sails, the will dry up and blow away. Will it take a few times – sure, persistence is not the same as resistence.
This us against them attitude does nothing but keep the battle going. Who is big enough to stop the cycle?? All will win if enough people will just try it.
Thanks for the “give peace a chance” speech, but really, leftists never quit, and I have been opposing them since I was about 13 years old. Marxists and Stalinists have always been there, and very vocal, and have also worked alongside democrats to achieve their goals, just exactly as Engels suggested, and for you to say that they’ll just dry up and go away if they’re ignored is a sign of either stupidity or incredible naïveté.
If you consider that leftists have been wrong on every single conflict we’ve ever been involved in, yet they continue to opine, and the media joins in and does it for them as is the case against the the War in Iraq–much like the war in Vietnam, they’re even using the same words! Kennedy says it’s a “quagmire”.
But you have to remember we were winning the war in Vietnam, too, and the Communists attribute their success to the media and the liberal war protestors at home (the communist anti-war protestors like Jane Fonda and Tom Hayden). I’m determined not to let that happen this time. George Soros and his minions are not going away, and neither is moveon.org.
You may have helped make my point, but I will ask – How do you oppose them?
When I said go on, I did not mean to sit it out. I’ll see what your opposition is before going on.
Ok, so I am going on, or off anyway:
The thing that pisses me off is this oppositional stance. (the demos seem to have that as a platform) I feel that it is naieve to think it will accomplish anything. Not to sit it out, my point is to promote what you want. Promote your agenda, work for it – all the while ignoring the “opposition”. Answering a cheap shot only empowers it.
I guarantee more will come about.
Nothing turns voters off more than negative campaigning. By all means promote your ideas. Prove them better and gain in the process.
The law of cause and affect may be hard to grasp in political arenas, but it is there, working, despite what you know.
Myself, I am tired of both sides. All I see is bickering and infighting – not much work being done for those who pay them. The people of the United States – and we deserve better!
A post script:
Be better and prove it, rather than stoop to the level of……….
Believe me, the voters will notice.
I’m already doing that, as far as I can tell, and so is my entire group blog over at TWA. We’re pointing out, in a rational way, the hyprocrisy of the leftist ideas and how empty they are. And I think that’s what this post is entirely about. The fact that they are demanding that Bush tell Rove to resign over something that he said which is true (and I don’t even believe is over the top) is another sign that they’re completely unhinged.
Moveon.org has moved into the center of the democratic party and George Soros’ candidates such as Hillary Clinton are nowhere near “centrist”. They’re EXTREME leftists–and that’s what I keep talking about in my posts.
As far as my guest posters, I am still proud of how we’re carrying our message, it’s always done with finesse.
I don’t really understand what your point is. I don’t see anyone on the conservative side of the issues “stooping” to anything like this.
Gary: What in the hell are you talking about? Sit what out? Do you mean, it is better for us to sit around and suffer another Bill Clinton? Should we sit around in the face of government lethary and wait for the enemies of the US to come and shoot us in our homes? So you are saying that in order to win, you have to sit around with you head up your ***?
I don’t think so, partner. That may be your point of reference, but it isn’t mine. America deserves PROACTIVE citizens who’ve decided that they have had enough of getting kicked around. Our nation is worth the effort. Now, if you don’t agree, that’s okay. There will always be people like those who serve in uniform, who put their lives on the line, to save you while you’re “sitting it out.” (Sorry Cao, I just hate weenies).
If conservatives don’t speak up, all we’d hear from the left is a constant, defeatest yammer of ‘like-nazis, Abu Ghraib, quagmire, another Vietnam, we’re losing, blah, blah, blah.’ If it weren’t for conservative blogs and news media, the left would really have turned Iraq into another Vietnam. If we ignored the ranting of Democrats and the left, you can be sure the MSM wouldn’t — big media is dedicated to pushing the left’s agenda and if conservatives don’t fight back,the left won’t be starved of all publicity — They’ll just be the only voices anyone ever hears.
Thank you, boys. Mustang, I have no problem with what you said there. I am in the exact same place with weenies. We win at war and fight war because of PATRIOTS, not because of WEENIES. And Rotty, you are SO correct! I think that’s the goal of this guy “Gary”, he just wants to hear one voice. It must confuse him to hear something other than what’s “popular” and “en vogue”. You know, something other than what he sees on television and what he hears from the lamestream media.
I think what he’s driving at is-don’t criticize them, that brings you down to their level–so just BE QUIET and they’ll go away!
Nope, we should continue speaking up for ourselves and if people don’t like it, they don’t have to read what we say….note to Gary: This is called exercising my 1st amendment rights.
My dear Gary, it seems your hearts in the right place. I’m wondering about the activity just north of there though.
You see, appeasement is accomplished by inactivity as well as active participation. Our counter attacks on the left are productive and promote awareness. To sit idly by and allow attacks to go unanswered is not the Conservative way. Inaction is a Liberal tool. That is the way they want America to handle the war on terror. To turn our back on Durbin would be to promote what he says.
The greatest damage done by Durbin’s remarks was not to the ‘Voters’, It was our Troops that were put in greater danger by the remarks. To simply sit by and ignore something like that would be akin to America ignoring the evil goings-on in Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.
The great Sir. Winston Churchill once explained this while trying to convince America to join in and push back the advancement of evil. He said,”What would happen if all these neutral nations were with one spontaneous impulse to do their duty in accordance with the covenant of the league and were to stand together with the British and the French empires against aggression and wrong? At present their plight is lamentable and it will become much worse. They bow humbly and in fear to German threats of violence, comforting themselves meanwhile with the thought, the allies will win, each one hopes that if he feeds the crocodile enough, the crocodile will eat him last. All of them hope that the storm will pass before their turn comes to be devoured. But I fear and fear greatly, the storm won’t pass. It will rage and it will roar ever more loudly, ever more widely. It will spread to the south, it will spread to the north. There’s no chance of a speedy end except through united action.”
You see Gary, we have to face and confront evil in our time! It cannot be ignored. Believe me the propaganda distributed by the Left is potentially as evil as that published by Joseph Goebbels.
I hope that helped.
Ken sez — …it seems your hearts in the right place. I’m wondering about the activity just north of there though.
I like that — will have to put that in my “speech pattern”!
Did you read what I said ??
You have missunderstood. I did not say sit it out.
Read me again.
I did say promote – - I just want the name calling and badmouthing to stop – so real work can be done.
Mustang probably jumped to an emotional response, rather than listening to the meaning I promote. We all do it at times – but that too must end — listen, you just might hear something.
All I am saying is look at Ted Kennedy’s methods, see them for what they are – AND DON’T FOLLOW HIS LEAD !
The €10 Tribute to the Greatness of America
One measure of America’s greatness is the nature of its enemies. If you’re against America, what are you for? Being against America used to mean being in favor of communism. To this day you will see ineptly groomed moonbats slinking…
“Anything that has energy focused on it grows. That’s just a physical and spiritual fact.” “If you want to make someone go away, or piss them off – ignor them.”
Gary, this isn’t a playground where you simply ignore the kid who’s throwing a tantrum over his turn on the monkey bars. And your point about stooping or bad mouthing – Karl Rove was being very realistic. It wasn’t an episode of name calling.
Someone told me, not long ago, that in order to counter what is wrong and allay your fear of it you must first give it a name. Karl Rove gave it a name. Apologetics.
That’s right, Oyster, we’re stupid! We’re so stupid that we’re willing to go for that “if you pay attention to something it’ll grow”. I guess it’s not only **** Durbin who thinks we’re stupid. Gary, if you really think we should take that seriously, I think you need therapy to face your obvious disconnect with reality. That one statement alone shows that Rove wasn’t that far from the mark, lol (and I think he was perfectly honest and just telling it like it is!). Is that the objection? That liberals don’t want to be recognized for the ideology they represent and they want to continue fooling stupid people who don’t realize the George Soros connection or the Democratic Socialist connection the House Progressive Caucus or what’s worse, the socialists connection with Bin Laden’s goals? What’s going to make this go away is to make more people aware of it.
Yeah, that’s how we won WWII, we IGNORED Hitler and he went away. What are you crazy? No, we faced them and fought them because their ideology is much the same as the islamofascists now. They’re going to grow FASTER if we ignore them!~ We ignored the terrorists attacks on us since 1968 and we ended up with 9/11!
And BTW, the left supported the NAZIS, too, the hard left marched to save Saddam Hussein protesting the “Iraq Invasion”. Nobody protested the 9/11 attacks. I don’t think Gary is very familiar with the fact that the Progressive Left has been wrong on every single conflict we’ve ever been involved with–that one fact by itself should be an indicator of how wrong and factless their arguments are.
Ya know guys, I really am on your side – I just want to improve it.
Ok, you mentioned Hitler, let’s add Saddam. The disgrace is not that they killed so many but that they killed so many before they were stopped.
My comments were not so much about Rove or Kennedy, but about the bigger picture of how politics is crippling this great country. Now I realise politics is basis, yet I stronly feel it is out of hand. We deserve better from those we pay to run OUR business. (all of them)
If they really went to work for us, rather than throw words back and forth, just imagine what “we” could be talking about instead of this ****!
In this post I was called a “Name” and ridiculed because my phylosophy scares and confuses – oh well!
The Us against Them attitude is killing us people. We are all in this together, and will need to come together before it all falls apart.
Who is it that stands back and watches the bully in the playground and know what is going on? Stand back, take that look at things – see if there isn’t some improving to be done by us all.
It starts with a good vote, writting some letters to instruct “Our Employees”, and working together.
I am sorry my “Ignore them” comment was not heard correctly. Watch them as you work to be better and overcome them!
Sound better?
No, Gary, it’s still confusing. We should replace the people who aren’t behaving honorably and who aren’t held accountable for their actions. But with George Soros pulling so many of the purse strings, do you think the little guy is going to be able to do that?
I don’t like that “watch them as you work to be better and overcome them”.
What we should be doing is to seek and support candidates who say what they mean and mean what they say and don’t change their minds with the polls–and really represent their constituents.
Let’s look at Kennedy’s comment about a quagmire. Looking at it differently than most – I would say he may be right. Not the war, but politics as usual Is the quagmire.
Far too often, politicians are more intersted in their well being, and that of the “Party” than to truly act for the people who pay them. So who is in control here?
Think about it…………
“What we should be doing is to seek and support candidates who say what they mean and mean what they say and don’t change their minds with the polls–and really represent their constituents.”
I agree. We really are on the same page, just different eyes.
Who really holds the purse strings??
Tell me:
Are we so addicted to the battle that we can not let ourselves win the War?
Gary
You’re asking pretty stupid questions, and I think I’m going to start taking your advice and ignoring you. Let’s see if you go away.
No problem.
Said my piece, some heard some didn’t.
BYE
Yo, Gary, not wasting my time with you either, but check this article out, for a little refresher as to why we’re over there (and why we like the terrorists over there, not over here) – whether you’re against the war or not. To quote:
…and then read Bush’s speech over again, to see why it’s not a quagmire. Plenty of links to that in your favorite lib rag.
Well, at least you didn’t cuss Cao out, a point in your favor. Or, did I miss it?
No, you missed the part about same page……….as well as the whole point of my comments. I never spoke against the war, or for it. So as long as I ask Stupid questions – What did I say?
That’s just the point, isn’t it, Gary… I really couldn’t tell. “Quagmire,” for one, though, your context was obscure. Nice try.
Alas, I thought you said BYE.
Back to the “ignor” bit.
But don’t think that I don’t give a…
Really, I’m trying to be polite.
And entertain myself a bit, until tonight.
Yes, and BYE again..with this parting reply – (you opened the can again)
Quagmire – I plainly indicated my feeings that politics as usual IS the the US Quagmire……………and all I ask is that you all help fix that – not add to it!
C Ya
Not worth answering at this point. Get lost and go troll somewhere else. You’re not making a clear point.
For example, you say good-bye but you really don’t MEAN good bye because you follow it with a question that I assume you want answered.
You’re not getting any more play out of me, go play in traffic.
And you won’t “c me” if I “c” you first.
I apologize, my last two comments were diredted to TheMaryHunter, I did not indetify as such.
Bye
Bull. All of your “statements” are unspecific just like your “bye”. Go sing kumbaya somewhere else. How many times are you going to say that before you mean it?
I’m thinking, Cao luv, that Gary is simply a develomentally challenged troll, which puts hem/her in a different class, makes it even more difficult to understand him/her.
Ooh, did I call names? Not really, since even developmentally challenged trolls are still trollses and still need lovies.
And, trollses makes yummy sammiches.
Wow, another mindless, dickless nationalist who can talk **** but can’t back it up. Bush speaks for himself. The man is an idiot, you know it, but you’re too caught up in black and white rhetoric that only simple minds can understand. It’s obvious to anyone who isn’t a dum hick that Bush is full of ****. But don’t take my word for it, watch as Bush’s war continues to be a disaster and he goes down in history as the worst president ever. He has spent our social security, pretty awesome huh, you think so but I can reason. Furthermore, I won’t argue with you because you don’t understand concepts unless there over simplified. It’s a fact, you republican hicks are in such denial that you’re practically braindead. So please **** off and have fun watching this country go down the toilet.
Thanks, Daniel
“Blessed are the peacemakers.” -Jesus
Some peacemaker YOU are. That’s right, attack with “Bush lied men died” and “Wow, another mindless, dickless nationalist who can talk **** but can’t back it up.”
I’m not a national socialist–there is a vast amount of difference between Hitler’s ideology (Hitler was a socialist and a green who persecuted not only jews but Christians as an extension of judaism), Saddam’s ideology (Saddam was a stalinist but also an admirer of Hitler) and a Christian capitalist. But I wouldn’t expect someone with absolutely no knowledge of history to know that.
Nice language and what point are you making here exactly, with what facts to back it up?
As far as the 9/11 connection with Saddam, go here.
As far as making a coherent point with facts to back it up, you certainly didn’t do it, but I think you’ve managed to corner the market on stupidity and bad language right there with one single idiotic comment. Congratulations!
Mindless and dickless, heh? Sounds like you need some sensitivity training.
You’ve got some nerve going to someone else’s website and saying:
Amazing. The terrorists have been attacking us since 1968, but apparently you want to blame all this on Bush. Get a clue lefty: they’re not going to stop trying to kill us and ruin our way of life simply because you think the reason we went to Iraq was “Bush lied while men died”. Seems to me you need a lesson in how to treat other people, how to behave as a guest on someone else’s website, and a lesson in history.
Obviously too much work involved in all that, it’s better just to act like an ***. You’re a great example of the left’s “ideas”: nothing worth mentioning.
Thank you Daniel and Cao for demonstrating the very actions I speak against.
Do you see it people?
Wow, Gary is STILL HERE????
As Ferris said, “It’s over..go home….GO!!!
Daniel?
Did you type that all by yourself? Did you think that up all by yourself?
As long as you are trolling this blog may I ask if YOU have any solutions?
What would YOU do to handle the islamic terrorists?
How would YOU deal with any problem that is currently occurring?
Do you have ONE solution?
Thought not.
Bugger off you needle dicked bug banger.
Daniel, just remember that Jesus kicked some serious *** in the Temple. How dare you use the name of Jesus on Cao’s Blog to attempt to make a clever point! (Alas, you need to be intelligent in order to be clever, even by half.) Or, perhaps you’re all for religious freedom, and therefore I bet you resent the ACLU for trying to airbrush Christianity from our society like so many Trotskys out of so many pictures of Stalin.
Someone, I have to go clip my toenails, please explain that last bit to him… oh wait, I found a link.
Kender: How does one bang bugs with a needle ****? I’m assuming one of those wee teeny needles, the ones you use for, um, banging bugs?
Well that’s small, then, isn’t it. And to think, if his brain is packed in that wee weenie… 
Now, back to your regularly scheduled troll bait thread.
The only thing I see here, Gary, is that you can’t keep to your word. All that stuff the troll said is not even anywhere near based on fact and I can’t even count the number of times he called me stupid right there. And a hick.
And you’re coming back saying what, exactly? Your point is lost just as the stupid elitist trostky lover’s rant. I love to leave them as they lie–for the world to see…pointless, vacuous, devoid of any intelligence whatsoever. Several of my readers of pointed out to me that i always back up what I say with links and documentation. But that guy has nothing better to say than “you people are so stupid you can’t understand our lofty ideas”. I don’t see a lofty idea there, just a lot of swear words.
He tells me to **** off on my own blog and you’re telling me to—? To what?
This is my blog and I reserve the right to laugh at imbeciles who can’t put two coherent thoughts together.
Poor little Trollsky Gary — I’ve got some nude pics of Pamela Anderson for you to look at; but, she said to give you …
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