Soldiers Against Cindy Sheehan

I just received this email:

Sorry for the mass e-mail but I’m writing to get the word out about Soldiers Against Cindy Sheehan, a blog I just put up at Soldiers Against Cindy Sheehan. As a soldier I’m particularly offended by her antics back at Crawford and wanted to say something about it.

If you can link, I’d appreciate it.

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46 Responses to Soldiers Against Cindy Sheehan

  1. Jay says:

    What a great idea! I’m sick of this crazy ladies whining, and the media circus that conviently ignore her anti-semitic remarks.

  2. Cao says:

    I’m sure this soldier will appreciate any traffic you can send over, Jay.

  3. Meh says:

    Please stop submitting inane posts from your blog(s) to Fark.

  4. Cao says:

    It’s too bad that you don’t like it, I don’t do it very often. Actually the last submission was to the Soldiers Against Cindy Sheehan blog–not to this post. Just thought the lefties over there would wig out about it, lol..

    And controversy = cash or at least political capital, IMO. And if you’re not the owner of FARK then I suggest you bugger off, swampy.

  5. Anon E. Mous says:

    Get it? My name is “Anon E. Mous”, just like on your blog.
    Quick using Fark for advertising douche…or at least be honest about it.

  6. Cao says:

    :twisted: I love it when lefties with no authority tell people what to do. As I said, if you don’t own FARK, go pound sand. If you DO own FARK, go pound sand, the last time I put a link up before today was exactly….when? And what was the link? Game. Point. Match.

    Interestingly, someone just paid anonymously for my FARK membership. heh! I guess someone appreciates the links I’m putting up if they’re willing to do THAT! So it just looks to me as though I may be spending some more time posting links at FARK! Oh isn’t that just going to make you guys freak? bwahahahahaha!

  7. Cao,
    In my postings today, I’ve linked to Soldiers Against Cindy Sheehan and have posted a link to the poll as well.
    Thanks for the tip!

  8. Cao says:

    Thanks, AOW, I think we should distribute it far and wide and literally drown them with NO votes.

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  10. SSgt Yatahey says:

    Soldiers Against Cindy Sheehan

    She’s a typical Tree-Hugging DEMOCRAPPER and I wish the Gov’t. would find a way to shut her up — others have lost loved ones; not just in this war, but in all of the wars we’ve been involved in, and none of them have raised this much ****!:twisted:

    Why does she think her son deserves special attention, just because he signed his name on the dotted line to make a committment to FIGHT for everyone’s Rights and Freedoms? :evil:

    John “HANOI FONDA” Skerry is guilty of war crimes and lying to the people – he should be strung up in a tree; shot at sunrise; kicked in the balls; get married to Cindy Sheehan and ran out of America along with:

    * Cindy Sheehan :evil:
    * Stephen Pearcy
    * Ted Rall
    * Theodore Kennedy
    * Frank Church
    * Tommy Hayden
    * Tommy Harkin

    Git-R-Done With New Rope!

  11. Cao says:

    This doesn’t seem to be about Casey, this is about CINDY. I was looking at photographs of her with people fawning all over her, you’d think she was some kind of a celebrity! The fact that she’s using her son’s grave as a soapbox to vomit her anti-American rhetoric makes me ill.

    Cindy Sheehan hasn’t opened up anything resembling debate. She’s only continued the anti-war left’s maniacal behavior and outrages since this war began. She has brought nothing new to America’s table of debate. She has instead used her son’s death to try to politically assassinate a war-time president.

    This is about blaming Bush for a war that Congress voted on, and which all democrats except for about 3–still say they would have voted for.

    Blaming Bush for this is a case of selective memory and/or ignoring all of the facts. Bush didn’t do this all by himself, it was both democrats and republicans that voted FOR the war. And the amazing thing is–the two things that the media has been harping on- “no wmd” and “no Al Qaeda/Iraq connection” have both been proven to be false.

    Hell, even John Kerry voted FOR the war. He just voted against the money to fund it…trying to guarantee its failure.

    We succeeded in taking Saddam Hussein from power in a very short period. Now we’re fighting Al Qaeda; foreign fighters. We’re definitely winning on the ground, I pray to God that efforts like those of Cindy Sheehan will not succed to force us out before the Iraqis are ready.

    As sympathetic and endearing as Cindy may think she looks to her leftist cohorts and a small minority of the country: Cindy Sheehan is just a leftist tool, in a grand game of political chess, and like most pawns, she will be discarded, and forgotten.

    The large majority of Americans will not forget Casey Sheehan, who served his country with honor and dignity for what he believed. Casey Sheehan died in the war-torn streets of Iraq, but it is in the freedom-loving streets of America that he will be remembered, and properly so.

    Casey Sheehan is a true American hero, and not the liberal cause-celeb his mother has tried to make him out to be.

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  13. some guy says:

    I don’t see the point in that blog. Some woman not talking to president day after day simply isn’t news. Ignore it and it will go away. Keep bringing it up every 5 minutes and people will pay attention to it and the media will keep playing the story. Let it die.

    Also, I followed that link in the first paragraph expecting it to be about Code Pink raising money for terrorists. Instead it was about how they raised money for humanitarian aid for the displaced families from Falllujah. Unless someone is suggesting that every person that resided in the city of Fallujah was a terrorist and they intend to use some humanitarian aid in their next explosive vest, isn’t this very misleading, if not a bare-faced lie?

  14. Cao says:

    That’s right, John. They’re all humanitarian organizations, oh for crying out loud, give me a break. What are you some kind of mental midget? Sure, Medea Benjamin gives “medicine” to the other side; a commodity that can be very easily traded for weapons, ammunition, explosives, and other hardware to murder more US Coalition soldiers. There was also a certain amount of CASH among the “gifts” given to “the other side”. I can’t imagine what that “cash” would have been spent on, can you?

    American citizen Medea Benjamin, a leader of the anti-American group Code Pink, announced in Amman, Jordan that Code Pink, it’s parent group Global Exchange and Families for Peace have donated $600,000 in aid to the ‘other side’ in the terrorist haven city of Fallujah in Iraq.

    This news, which has been ignored by the media worldwide, was reported by Agence France Press but was picked up by only two small news outlets:

    “I don’t know of any other case in history in which the parents of fallen soldiers collected medicine … for the families of the ‘other side’,” said Medea Benjamin, the founding director of Global Exchange, a human rights group.

    “It is a reflection of a growing movement in the United States … opposed to the unjust nature of this war,” she said.

    “This is the positive face of the American people which we would like to show … so that we are not looked at with animosity but with love. Our hearts go out to the people of Fallujah and to all the Iraqi people,” she said.

    Medea Benjamin and those working with her, opposed the liberation of the people of Iraq from the brutal reign of Saddam Hussein. They call themselves human rights activists, yet they support the worst human rights violators in the world from Fidel Castro to the terrorists in Fallujah.

    With American troops in harm’s way in Fallujah, Medea Benjamin’s proud admission that she and her cohorts are giving aid to the ‘other side’ should be grounds for her arrest for treason.

    Code Pink along with their anti-American friends International ANSWER–whose leader Ramsey Clark is one of Saddam Hussein’s defense lawyers–protested President Bush at his Inaugural Parade on January 20.

  15. Cao says:

    A little more since I feel a little feisty today:

    Left-wing Congressman Henry Waxman, D-CA, signed a letter allowing radical leftist Medea Benjamin and a dozen of her cohorts – some of whom had lost relatives in the Iraq War – to slip the $600,000 of cash and supplies into camps housing refugees from Fallujah, with less outside scrutiny of its contents. The letter was given to Fernando Suarez del Solar, an amnestied illegal immigrant from Mexico and antiwar speaker for the leftist organization Global Exchange, who lost his son Jesus Suarez in Iraq. Fernando Suarez lives near Waxman’s congressional district. Fernando Suarez distinguished himself as an emotional antiwar protestor. His son, Jesus Suarez (a.k.a. Victor Gonzalez), reportedly died after stepping on an American cluster bomb. Jesus Suarez, who also entered this country illegally, had been offered posthumous citizenship for his service in the military, but his father turned it down. (His wife reportedly accepted the offer in order to safeguard the legal status of their child.) At his son’s funeral, Fernando recalled that Jesus had always wanted to become a Marine and be remembered as a modern day Aztec warrior. However, Fernando soon began shilling for Medea Benjamin and protesting against his son’s lifelong wish.

    More troubling than the fact that Waxman’s letter probably sped those supplies through military security is the remaining question: Who was the intended recipient of this collection of left-wingers’ philanthropy? Well there is no doubt where the funds went. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this stuff out.

    This is what the communists call “useful idiots”. Whether intentionally or not, these people are aiding and abetting the enemy and serve as commie puppets and tools.

    Medea Benjamin gave some indication in a story that ran on the Agence France Presse wire service on New Year’s Eve. “I don’t know of any other case in history in which the parents of fallen soldiers collected medicine…for the families of the ‘other side,’” Benjamin said. “It is a reflection of a growing movement in the United States…opposed to the unjust nature of this war.” Oh, but I guess some lefties are discounting the possibility that Medea intended to aid Iraqi terrorists. So let’s take a little look at her historical pattern of aiding and abetting the enemy.

    Benjamin is a lifelong revolutionary, who once described Castro’s Cuba as “heaven.” She helped stir revolutionary violence at home in 1999 as one of the instigators of Seattle’s anti-World Trade Organization riots and honed her rhetorical skills as a Green Party senatorial candidate in California (and author of the socialist utopian book I, Senator). However, Benjamin is best known as the founder of three of the Left’s most effective activist organizations: Global Exchange, Code Pink, and International Occupation Watch. Global Exchange takes American liberals on “reality” tours of third world nations, illustrating either the wonders of socialism (Cuba) or the iniquity of American foreign policy (Iraq, Afghanistan). Code Pink purports to be a grassroots organization of antiwar housewives, yet the core leadership met in the 1980s while working on behalf of Central American Communist guerrillas. In fact, at least one of Benjamin’s close associates has first hand experience giving medical aid to the enemy: Code Pink leader Sandy “Sand” Brim flew in a surgeon to operate on Communist leader Nidia Diaz, whose men had recently killed four Marines.

    And there is much more on Medea Benjamin and her efforts to sabotage the war in Iraq and encourage soldiers to “conscienciously object” at this link.
    Having natives distribute aid to a village known for its sympathy to anti-American murderers could have been the masterstroke necessary to get this aid into terrorists’ hands and at last bolster the hot war against the Great Satan. Locals would be more likely to know which families had ties to terror, or which had traditional sympathies with Saddam, and could steer the aid accordingly.

    Medea Benjamin has the motive, and her allies have actively comforted our enemies before. And some in her recent Iraqi caravan have personal ties to terrorism.

    Jodie Evans, a co-founder of Code Pink. As Jean Pearce has noted on FrontPage, Evans is also institutionally tied to Mike Roselle, founder of the domestic terrorist organization Earth Liberation Front (ELF), “which along with the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) is ranked the No. 1 domestic terrorism threat by the FBI. The FBI attributes over 600 criminal acts and $43 million in damages to the two groups since 1996.”

    Hany Khalil is the Organizing Coordinator for United for Peace and Justice, Racial Justice 9/11 and writer for the throwaway tabloid War Times. The Racial Justice 9/11 website proclaims, “Bush’s war on Iraq is the frontline of a racist war against Third World nations and communities of color at home…This builds on deep-rooted patterns of U.S. governments using racism to build support for colonial wars of conquest and to deprive people of color of their rights…The war on Iraq is the leading edge of the U.S. attempt to forcibly dominate and control the world.”

    Gael Murphy, another Code Pink co-founder who also helped set up Occupation Watch. Gael admits “demonstrating” with Saddam loyalists against the forthcoming U.S.-led war during a two week visit to Iraq in February 2003 – one of her many prewar visits to the Ba’athist tyranny. She has since tied repeatedly to undermine the Iraqi interim government. Murphy added her signature – alongside Howard Zinn, Leslie Cagan, and the Communist Party USA – to letters to Bush and Kerry to end the “occupation” of Iraq. At home, she disrupted **** Cheney’s speech at the Republican National Convention, interrupted Donald Rumsfeld as he was apologizing for a few soldiers’ excesses at the Abu Ghraib prison, and reportedly shouted obscenities at teenage Protest Warriors.

    Waxman has a long leftist history much like John Kerry, and he was the main person behind greasing the wheels to let these extremists slip through to help the “other side” in Fallujah.

  16. Cao says:

    Some guy, you’re probably right. The days of this kind of thing winning hearts and minds are over. The leftists don’t want to let go of “the good old days”. The media hasn’t been able to transfer their hatred of the Bush administration to the general public, and try as they might, this isn’t going to make that happen, either.

    In the meantime, they’ve buried ABLE DANGER and what we knew that the Clinton Administration didn’t allow us to know…before 9/11. Now THERE’S the story; the connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda proven…and it doesn’t have a thing to do with the Bush administration or intelligence problems. It has to do with Clintonistas who were covering for the Clinton administration. Sandy Berger and all the rest…what a bunch of lying scumbags.

  17. jcrue says:

    All of this plays into my tagline:

    “Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots.”

    Code Pink aids and abets, so does his massiveness Moore. In fact, there is not a single thing these useful idiots are saying that is positively recieved by our troops. So, in fact, these spokesholes for the Left are helping our enemies feel better about their effectiveness and not our troops.

    When do was start putting people away who have directly helped the enemy (Code Pink) as traitors?

  18. Cao says:

    If I had my way we would have been doing that since the days of VVAW.

  19. SSGT Yatahey says:

    Get it? My name is “Anon E. Mous”

    No — that’s not your real name, it’s actually “Markos of Emeryville, CA”

    As a RUSSIAN COMMUNIST in our country, be careful how you run your stupid mouth claiming to be “anonymous” … it was too easy to find out your real name; address; phone number and that your domain is hosted by “GoDaddy.com”.

    Now, go peddle your Leftie Communist rantings somewhere else before I expose far more about you, Markos!

    John “HANOI FONDA” Skerry is guilty of war crimes and lying to the people – he should be strung up in a tree; shot at sunrise; kicked in the balls; get married to Cindy Sheehan and ran out of America along with:

    * Cindy Sheehan
    * Stephen Pearcy
    * Ted Rall
    * Theodore Kennedy
    * Frank Church
    * Tommy Hayden
    * Tommy Harkin

    Git-R-Done With New Rope!

  20. Cao says:

    bwahahahaha! link

  21. SSgt Yatahey says:

    ROTFLMAO, Cao – that’s an excellent link, and has the exact info I found on him too!
    :mrgreen: :grin::lol:

    John “HANOI FONDA” Skerry is guilty of war crimes and lying to the people – he should be strung up in a tree; shot at sunrise; kicked in the balls; get married to Cindy Sheehan and ran out of America along with:

    * Stephen Pearcy
    * Ted Rall
    * Theodore Kennedy
    * Frank Church
    * Tommy Hayden
    * Tommy Harkin

    Git-R-Done With New Rope!

  22. SSgt Yatahey says:

    jcrue – love your tagline!:mrgreen::lol:

  23. American says:

    We should Vigil at her house a Real Estate friend gave me her address 256 Ironwood Street Vacaville, Ca

  24. Joe says:

    Cindy Sheehan should seriously be ashamed of herself. To use your son’s death for your own political agenda is compelety out of line. My Dad is currently serving in the Marine Corp and I am currently serving in the Air Force. If something happened to either one of us. I would want my family to remember us and realize that we made the ultimate sacrifice for our country and perserving freedom and there is no greater honor than that. God Bless our men and women of the U.S. Military

  25. US-Support says:

    We have launched a new website to show how many people support our President, Troops, and country.

    The website is called :
    http://www.stopcindysheehan.org

    There is a visitor counter on the top of the page so that you can see how many people have
    visited the website.

    Tell everyone you know to check this out, so that we can show America who the majority is!

    Sincerely,

    webmaster @ http://www.stopcindysheehan.org
    http://www.stopcindysheehan.org
    :lol:

  26. Cao says:

    Nice website, but you don’t have much information up about what she’s doing, and the anti-American extremism or the leftist organizations she’s involved with, or the ridiculous statements she’s made regarding Israel and Palestine, etc..

    It looks like your entire goal is to get people to click on the link to your website so you can record how many visitors came there.

    I think it’s going to take a lot more to “stop cindy sheehan” than watching the stats on a statcounter.

  27. US.MARINE says:

    The left wing has used Sheehan in order to push forward their antiwar views, and in my eyes she has done nothing but follow their lead. I consider her to be just as bad as Fonda during the vietnam. She used her son as an excuse to protest against this war, it amazes me how so many people would listen to this women, I am sorry her son died but thats as far as I go. We took on Iraq in order to give their people freedom, and to eliminate the terrorist threat, what would have happend if we had not intervened with the invasion of the Nazi’s we would have been in a world of hurt, this is not different, we back down and everything we fought for is gone, then all the deaths of our fellow soldiers would have been invane. We dont need terrorist’s to attack us, we have people that do that in our country openly, they dimish our troops morale and destroy the unity of the people. We need to control these types of antiwar activists before they cause more damage than good.

  28. Cao says:

    Ever hear the phrase “loose lips sink ships”? Anyone old enough to remember WWII has heard it. My dad, in fact, has repeated it over and over relatively recently.

    I don’t know why we don’t restrict this hatespeech. Speech that endangers American lives can be restricted in wartime (unless there’s something I don’t know which is entirely possible), censorship in wartime is standard for all countries, including all democracies, and speech has led to trials – and convictions – for treason, Tokyo Rose and Axis Sally–two obvious examples.

    Supporters of this hatred against America don’t recognize any responsibility towards their country for the defense of their fellow citizens when war is being waged against them by a merciless and conscienceless enemy–and this I find despicable. The slogan “Loose Lips Sink Ships” was designed to encourage American civilians to be discreet; to censor themselves God forbit-they endanger the brave men and women defending them on the field of battle. Even if the government does not have the political strength to impose wartime censorship, citizens should exercise reasonable restraint in the way they conduct their criticisms of war policy. Those like Cindy Sheehan who denounce their own democracy as a “fascist” and “terrorist” and maliciously “lying” and an “outlaw state,” are inviting others to hate us and attack us.

  29. J says:

    I have respect for the the military.
    But not this war. My family is from India and my mother was born when we got our Independence from the British – - – through Ghandi’s non violent movement. Growing up we were taught that violence was not the answer and through that—– names such as Martin Luthur King and other people were mentioned in the house. This is the way we were brought up. I do not think we are in this war to fight for our freedom. This has nothing to do with September 11. Not one thing. And the military? Does anyone remember the first reason we went in? How about the second? How about the third? Again I do have respect for the military but I think it is hypocrytical (spelling?) to restore Democracy in Iraq when we give F-16 & F18 fighter planes to Pakistan to a country run by a dictator- – - -by a man who gave himself the title of “President” – - – from the brutal cou de ta . ( I hope I spelled that right too)

    I have to steal thus line from my favorite comedian “Bill Hicks”

    He said the only countries that are a threat to us are the one’s we arm first.

    I was born in this country. I am an American therefore I feel I have American point of veiw and i do watch left and right wing new’s . . . .But! I also have the perspective from someone from India too.

    I love this country too. It hurts me to know another Military man or women has lost their lives . . . But I am also saddened by the death of innocent Iraqi’s too.

    If I did support any war . . . .

    How come we can not go into Tibet and free the people there like Kuwait ? ? ?

    During the time of Aparthied in South Africa…How come we did not step in ?

    Why has Iraq become such a priority?

    That’s like me steppping into an ant mound an saying . . .

    Here are the terrorist.

  30. SSgt Yatahey says:

    Since you’re from India, that explains alot of your illogical thinking, and not comprehending how Americans think. :roll:

    John “HANOI FONDA” Skerry is guilty of war crimes and lying to the people – he should be strung up in a tree; shot at sunrise; kicked in the balls; get married to Cindy Sheehan and ran out of America along with:

    * Mister Carlos
    * Michael Moore
    * Stephen Pearcy
    * Ted Rall
    * Theodore Kennedy
    * Frank Church

    Git-R-Done With New Rope!

  31. Cao says:

    Perhaps Gandhi’s pacifism worked because of his opponent’s moral misgivings about using violence against someone who’s non-violent. I doubt it would work in, say, Iraq. Afghanistan. Chechnya. Or Tibet. Or Tiananmen square.

    Peace, unfortunately for Gandhi and other principled pacifists, is a two-way street.

    If I’m living my life and minding my own business, and somebody comes along every two weeks and beats me up although I never offer a defense, I may be acting as a pacifist but you couldn’t say there is peace between me and that person. It’s kind of like Bush’s “failure” of diplomacy: you can’t successfully negotiate with a brick wall.

    I keep thinking of Patrick Henry’s famous speech: “Gentlemen may cry ‘Peace! Peace!’ But there is no peace.”

    Pacifism is not principled thinking. Suppose a pacifist was sitting on his front porch, and he looked over at his neighbor’s house and saw his neighbor mercilessly beating his daughter or his wife, to the point of threatening her life. Would the pacifist go next door and make him stop? Or would he go in his house, shut the door, pull the blinds, and say to himself, “After all, the important thing is to live in peace with my neighbor.”

    I do think that a philosophy that requires that one passively sit on one’s hands in any situation at all, even where terrible wrong is being done and one can’t reason the wrongdoers out of it, shows profound ignorance of human nature and history – that’s the kindest thing I can think of to say about it. “Bush Lied” makes more sense than just waiting for an Islamist crazy to chop your head off because you want to “live at peace with your neighbor”.

    And there was absolutely a connection between Saddam and Al Qaeda, where have you been the last 10 years? Listen to this ABC 1999 clip. Or look at this website and read about it.

  32. Ogre says:

    J, peace had a chance — Islam has decided that there shall be no peace. Contrary to popular opinion, it takes 2 to have peace and only 1 to have war — if someone hits you, the war has begun. The only time there is peace is if both stop.

    In this case, Islam will NOT stop. They freely admit that their sole goal is to take over the world and convert everyone, including you pacifists, to Islam. So sure, you can have peace right now — just convert to muslim and peace will rein. That is the only option.

  33. Mustang says:

    For J:

    There is nothing wrong with the view that war is a bad thing and ought to be avoided whenever possible. It does not take a mental giant to realize that peace is always preferable to violence and conflict, but we the people do not always have a choice about such matters. Still, I think that if we did have a choice, and we had to decide about a conflict against murderers who wear no uniform and who prey on the innocent, the majority of us would conclude that it is better to have such a confrontation somewhere else other than in the United States.

    It is true that the US has not always made wise choices about which foreign leader to support. On the other hand, Pakistan cannot be ignored and if that is true, then who should we deal with if not the head of government. Your question about his legitimacy as head of state may be valid, but it is also irrelevant. There is one “president” of Pakistan, and that is who we must deal with.

    We all should be looking at America as our home, and all Americans as our brothers and sisters. If you would defend your parents, your wife, your children against such people as these Islamic terrorists, then you have a similar obligation to defend your countrymen as well, and for the same reasons. You may choose not to do that because of your pacificism, but then you have to ask yourself, if you will not defend your own family, will you defend anyone, including yourself?

    I think that if you will do more research and study, you will find that America’s involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq was the right move, at the right time. What has already been gained is laudable, and what other nation can say that its citizens love liberty so much that they are willing to make the ultimate sacrifice so that other people, not of their country, can achieve it? In the world’s entire history, it has been the English speaking people who have argued the most and fought the hardest to achieve democracy and freedom for other people. Now, you should consider that if the United States and Great Britain won’t commit to liberty, including the loss of our sons and daughters, who in the world will?

    I have a great deal of respect for Mahatmas Gandhi, but he was an idealist and murdered by a fanatic. He became a martyr at a time when he might have achieved even greater successes. Ultimately, his ideals could not stop the bloodshed that resulted in the split from India of the new state of Pakistan – and that of course is a dose of reality.

    Remember the words of John Stuart Mill: “War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling, which thinks that nothing is worth war, is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertion of better men than himself.”

  34. Kender says:

    J, pacifism is a cowards path when the one you are being a pacifist against refuses to care whether they begin the fight or you do…….islam is NOT a religion of peace……it is a rare muslim, (mostly in America I think) that is truly shocked and dismayed by terrorism…..it is quickly approaching an us or them situation….and I can tell you that it won’t be “us”.

    Just a side note, do you think that a radical jihadist would have hesitated for ONE MOMENT to saw Ghandi’s head from his skinny little shoulders?

  35. Gribbit says:

    Peace can only survive if there are people willing to fight and die to protect it. As our troops have the radicals tied up in Afghanistan and Iraq, isn’t it surprising that no one has rammed a plane into a building here at home? I don’t think so. If you take the fight to them instead of reacting to their attacks on us, our people become more safe.

    What would have happened in 1941 – 1945 if we never declared war on Japan? They would have attacked us again, France and N. Africa would still be under German control, Great Britain would have eventually fallen, The Soviet Union would have imploded under Nazi agression, and we’d be faced with nuclear annialation from Europe. If not already the world’s largest sheet of glass.

    Peace was given a chance. But it cannot work unless everyone gives it the same chance. Islamic radicals will never let that happen.

    And with our attention focused on the middle east, N. Korea is developing a feeling of neglect and is getting snarky. We must deal with the world’s problems because the world invites us into their problems.

    Grow up and have a steak.

  36. Cao says:

    A pacifist would die, faced with the people who are spreading this hatespeech (click here). The choice is fight them and live, or don’t fight them and die.

    India finally won independence in 1947. For Gandhi, triumph was tempered with disappointment over the violent partitioning of the country into India and Pakistan. Nearly one million people died in the riots that ensued between Hindus and Muslims.

    So that’s quite interesting, not all Hindus felt the way you do, and understood what was at stake. The Hindus and the Muslims fought over land, and the Muslims succeeded after shedding Hindu blood. Reminds me of what happened in Gaza; but that little victory isn’t going to stop their ultimate goal of turning the whole of Israel into “Palestine”.

    Mahatma Gandhi had always been against the partition. The year before he had said, “Before partitioning India, my body will have to be cut into two pieces.”

    But the alternative to partition was thought to be civil war between Hindus and Muslims, and so at the last minute Gandhi urged the Congress Party to accept partition. He suggested the Hindus surrender to appease them, encouraging their victory out of fear. Are the fearful pacifists today going to hand over everything to these violent jihadis without even a fight? That seems to me to be utter cowardice.

    Muslims are still killing Hindus today as you can see in this picture. That picture shows a Hindu being beaten by Muslims in a mosque in Bangladesh. He was captured outside the mosque while going home. After Friday prayers were over, the Muslims came out and grabbed the first Hindu they could. Mr. Vimal Patak a Bangladeshi born Hindu was beaten to death with sticks as the Muslim mullas (priests) chanted “kill the Kafir!” (non-muslim). With folded hands he begged for his life and died a horrible death. Can you honestly tell me you would stand by and do nothing as your fellow hindu is being beaten to death? Is that how you would achieve “peace”?

    The thing is–these people are not going to stop. The pacifist approach will just hand them a victory. If the world was full of pacifist appeasers, the muslims would win…but thank God there are still some courageous people–who recognize this for what it is and are willing to fight it, for the sake of future generations. And I’m sorry you don’t know that much about the history of your own country, J. It appears to me as though Hindus themselves were sick of his pacifist message–Ghandi was assassinated by a fellow Hindu.

  37. ag says:

    Bush is a lier that alters governemnt documents constantly, he created a mess in iraq, and now london is paying a price for our mistakes. Bush is the worst president in my book, and many others. He knew about 911 and yes do did clinton. Bush is an ignorant ******* with the IQ of rat ****. Im not being a child im saying somthing, that most people want to say, especially those who voted for bush and now are rgretting it. To those idiots, THANKS A LOT FOR HELPING **** UP THIS COUNTRY.
    Now gas prices are the highest they have ever been, and canada pays less somecities the same amount, but they actually have benefits like free health insurance. We dont have didly squat, and many are without insurance, including myself. Im not hating america, i love it,what it used to be, not what it is now. Everyday more and more immigrants are moving in this country illegally, and it makes me sick how they can steal out jobs , and steal from the americans, raise our crime rates. He wants to ruin the alaska refuge, and only cares about his money.
    I remember when the past election came out and bush said he wouldnt raise gas prices, and look whats happening now???? Jobs are already hard to find, and so is money, and now we have to pay more and more. Its not right this is america. We deserve the best but we arent getting it. This war is waste, the only thing good that came out of it is taking out saddam, But seriously where is osama????? besides long gone!!
    We are hurting other countries and peoplein the city of london have died because of this. How many more people have to die ??? Until we realize what we are doing? Soldiers are dying everyday, and YES that is part of war, but not like this. Not Like This!

  38. ag says:

    Bush is a lier that alters governemnt documents constantly, he created a mess in iraq, and now london is paying a price for our mistakes. Bush is the worst president in my book, and many others. He knew about 911 and yes do did clinton. Bush is an ignorant ******* with the IQ of rat ****. Im not being a child im saying somthing, that most people want to say, especially those who voted for bush and now are rgretting it. To those idiots, THANKS A LOT FOR HELPING **** UP THIS COUNTRY.
    Now gas prices are the highest they have ever been, and canada pays less somecities the same amount, but they actually have benefits like free health insurance. We dont have didly squat, and many are without insurance, including myself. Im not hating america, i love it,what it used to be, not what it is now. Everyday more and more immigrants are moving in this country illegally, and it makes me sick how they can steal out jobs , and steal from the americans, raise our crime rates. He wants to ruin the alaska refuge, and only cares about his money.
    I remember when the past election came out and bush said he wouldnt raise gas prices, and look whats happening now???? Jobs are already hard to find, and so is money, and now we have to pay more and more. Its not right this is america. We deserve the best but we arent getting it. This war is waste, the only thing good that came out of it is taking out saddam, But seriously where is osama????? besides long gone!!
    We are hurting other countries and peoplein the city of london have died because of this. How many more people have to die ??? Until we realize what we are doing? Soldiers are dying everyday, and YES that is part of war, but not like this. Not Like This!

  39. Cao says:

    :shock: Your comments speak for themselves. Wow. How many times did you hit the submit button on that one after you pasted it in? 4? 5? What’s particularly amusing is your ignorance that your comments were going into moderation so you kept pasting the same sorry comment over and over again. And btw, I just love all the spelling errors, Mr. “I know better than you do”.:twisted:

    What documents has he altered? PROVE THAT HE’S A LIAR! I dare you. Show me some facts instead of vague inflammatory leftist rhetoric.

    Your repeated stupidity is full of those sweeping generalizations AGAIN. (this is a repeated problem with leftists who leave their hateful comments here.) Is that all you people have left?

    Canada and the other countries that have “free health insurance” have systems that are totally dependent on ours. What is the only country in the world that can afford money for research and development for finding new cures for diseases? It’s the U.S.. And we’re the only ones who can afford it.

    Do you actually want to have the piss-poor quality of care the rest of the world has with socialized medicine? It’s a disaster worldwide for patients who need attention now or tomorrow or by next week, especially if that attention entails a procedure or surgery.

    Have you seen the quality of medical facilities that they have in communist utopia’s like Cuba? They’re dirty, there are dead roaches on the floor, and the doctors don’t even have current textbooks….and I hate to even ponder what kind of education a doctor gets in a country like that when books and medical text books are not allowed to enter the country.

    People assume that what we have–they have everywhere else–and that is simply not the case.

    One of the reasons that we’re experiencing a healthcare crisis in this country is because of frivolous lawsuits like the ones John Edwards made his millions off of–using junk science to prove that doctors (or pharmaceutical companies) were negligent, and causing doctors in his home state to MOVE OUT of the state ALTOGETHER.

    Free markets will follow the money. Profitable enterprises and industries attract effort and investment, while unprofitable ones are shunned and left to wither.

    When a trial lawyer parades a crippled child into a courtroom, people gasp — then they start adding zeroes to a random number in their head. It doesn’t matter if the drug or vaccine that supposedly harmed the child saved the lives of 10,000 others. There is no moral calculus of good that can be made to apply in such situations, which are inherently personal and emotional. It does not even matter if the child was, in fact, harmed at all by the product in question. All that matters is that a child is suffering and that the deep pockets of a corporation can be opened in an attempt to alleviate that suffering.

    The fact that corporations are considered evil in the popular mythology of David, Goliath, and Erin Brokovitch doesn’t help too much either. “Make ‘em pay!” seems to be a legal philosophy at least as coherent as, and considerably more popular than, anything that has come out of the Supreme Court lately. Make ‘em pay for what they did wrong, or didn’t do right, or didn’t do at all. Make ‘em pay for the weather or missed lottery numbers as well, they have the money — and they gave Meryl Streep cancer in that movie, remember. Get a pitiful child before a jury, point at a plausible villain and Presto! You’re rich enough to buy a Senate seat and run for Vice President. Facts may change later, but the money is yours forever. To hell with everyone else!

    And that’s precisely what’s happened.

  40. Cao says:

    I know that was a simple answer, but I’m trying to keep it simple so you can understand it. There’s a very big story behind what’s happening to our health care system. Socialized medicine is not the answer.

    MYTH: Uninsured individuals have no access to medical care.

    FACT: In 2004, uninsured Americans received $125 billion of health care, of which $41 billion was provided totally free of charge.

    MYTH: Skyrocketing prescription drugs are driving health-care spending up.

    FACT: According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, as a whole, Americans spend about 1% of their income on drugs. Seniors spend about 3% on drugs, less than the amount they spend on entertainment. Spending on drugs, as a percent of total health-care spending, was 10% in 1960. It’s roughly the same today.

    Pharmaceutical spending actually lowers total health-care spending. It often replaces expensive and invasive surgical procedures and the time spent in the hospital. For example, in a yearlong disease-management program, Humana Hospitals studied 1,100 congestive heart failure patients. While pharmaceutical costs increased by 60%, the medications reduced hospital costs by 78%–a net savings of $9 million.

    Among other myths exposed in Miracle Cure is the myth that our health-care problems derive from the fact that we have a free-market health-care system. Little can be further from the truth. The government has been the largest participant in our health-care system since the 1960s. Today, the government directly pays for 45% of health-care spending. Government intervenes in the form of tax subsidies and costly regulations on private insurers. Regulations imposed on medical practitioners are oppressive. According to a study by PricewaterhouseCoopers, for every four hours that a physician devotes to caring for a Medicare patient, hospital administrators spend 30 minutes on Medicare paperwork. For emergency room care, it’s one hour spent on paperwork per one hour spent caring for a patient.

    Is Canada better? In her book, Pipes reports the case of 58-year-old Canadian Don Cerniz, who noticed blood in his urine. It took three weeks to get his first test and another month for an MRI, and treatment for his cancer didn’t begin until six months later. According to the Vancouver, British Columbia-based Fraser Institute’s yearly survey of medical waiting times, Cerniz was lucky: “The median wait for an MRI across Canada was 12.6 weeks. Patients in Prince Edward Island experienced the shortest wait for an MRI (six weeks), while Newfoundland residents waited longest (33.5 weeks).” Overall, Canada’s total waiting time between referral from a general practitioner to treatment averaged about 18 weeks in 2004.

    Americans shouldn’t imitate Aesop’s dog by looking to Canada’s socialized medicine as a solution to our health-care problems and lose what we have. A much smarter move is to repeal previous government-created “solutions” that have marched us nearer to socialism in the provision of medical services. In a word or two, get government out of our hospitals and doctors’ offices.

    More reasons for this is taking another look at the waiting time Canadians are forced to endure through a socialized system that offers no private medical insurance. (They actually outlawed private medical insurance.)

    The Vancouver, British Columbia-based Fraser Institute keeps track of Canadian waiting times for various medical procedures. According to the Fraser Institute’s 14th annual edition of “Waiting Your Turn: Hospital Waiting Lists in Canada (2004),” total waiting time between referral from a general practitioner and treatment, averaged across all 12 specialties and 10 provinces surveyed, rose from 17.7 weeks in 2003 to 17.9 weeks in 2004. For example, depending on which Canadian province, an MRI requires a wait between 7 and 33 weeks.

    Orthopaedic surgery might require a wait of 14 weeks for a referral from a general practitioner to the specialist and then another 24 weeks from the specialist to treatment. That statistic might help explain why Cleveland, Ohio, has become Canada’s hip-replacement center.

    As reported in a December 2003 story by Kerri Houston for the Frontiers of Freedom Institute titled “Access Denied: Canada’s Healthcare System Turns Patients into Victims,” in some instances, patients die on the waiting list because they become too sick to tolerate a procedure. Canada’s Prime Minister Paul Martin responded to the court’s decision saying, “We’re not going to have a two-tier healthcare system in this country. What we want to do is strengthen the public healthcare system.” That’s the standard callous political response. He’s telling Canadians to continue waiting, continue suffering and perhaps dying until the day comes when there’s no more waiting. And though Canadian politicians can’t give their citizens a date certain when there’ll be no more waiting, they’re determined to deny them alternatives to waiting for government-provided healthcare. I’d bet you the rent money that Prime Minister Martin and members of the Canadian Parliament don’t have to wait months and years for a medical procedure.

    AND YOU THINK THEIR SYSTEM IS BETTER THAN OURS? You’re nuts.

  41. Cao says:

    Oh and please share your infinite wisdom with us as to why Bush is at fault for the high gas prices. I gather after the last Al Qaeda attack on the warships in Jordan’s Aqaba port, the stock market went crazy and oil immediately jumped about $2.00 a barrel. But I also gather that a report regarding Ecuador’s reduction in oil production was also a part of the reason.

    Was Al Qaeda’s attack on the ships in Jordan Bush’s fault? Ecuador’s problems are also Bush’s fault? C’mon, I’d love to know your simplistic twisted answer to that one.

    It actually has quite a bit to do with not having built any new refineries for the past 20 years, and the government’s choking off the ability to use the ones we have. (This was done during the Clinton years so you can’t exactly get away with blaming Bush for that one.)

    Washington’s been successful in choking off domestic oil production — while encouraging the importation of refined petroleum. So nobody should be surprised about our heavily regulated refinery industry having capacity limits. “There has not been a refinery built in America in the last 20 years,” observed Adel Al-Jubeir, spokesman for Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah. “So if you can produce more crude oil but you can’t refine it, it’s not going to translate into gasoline.”

    Al-Jubeir, some might content, is merely trying to shift the blame, being that he is a spokesman for the cornerstone member of OPEC. But since OPEC members — not to mention terrorists funded by petrodollars — benefit from the conditions he describes, Al-Jubeir’s comments represent testimony against interest. As long as Washington continues its stranglehold on domestic energy production, OPEC will endure.

    The free market system is the only way that supply can be reconciled with demand. The market would not only produce sufficient supplies of current energy resources, but spur development of resources that are presently underutilized (such as nuclear fission) or not yet available (such as nuclear fusion), (if it was only allowed to operate!). Quality of life and individual freedom of people in the U.S. and abroad would be automatically enhanced. In fact, it would most likely spur development of energy resources most of us could not even imagine today. (Prior to World War II, how many conceived of unlocking the power of the subatomic nucleus for the production of electricity?) The key is to allow entrepreneurs and consumers to determine our energy future through a free market.

    But that, of course, is an outcome stoutly resisted by the political elite responsible for our energy mess.

    To blame Bush for every problem in your life is an oversimplification of issues that your mind seems to small to comprehend, my dear person/fellow/gal. I have no idea what gender you are, but you seem to be pretty daft. The only thing that seems clear to me is your blinding hatred of Bush–which has been coined as Bush Derangement Syndrome–which is an acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency — nay — the very existence of George W. Bush. The telling signs of someone who has BDS is–they blame every problem they have in their lives on Bush.

  42. Cao says:

    As far as the war being “a waste”, what do you know about it?

    Each one of the things that you said in that comment that you cut and pasted several times–is something that can’t be answered in simplistic elementary school terms, like you write them down.

    I’m sorry that you feel that way, but my son is over there helping the Iraqi people, it isn’t a mess–what’s a mess is how the media is covering it-and how the leftists like Cindy Sheehan are crying about it and siding with the terrorists. I found out today that organizations like Code Pink have been demonstrating outside of Walter Reed Hospital where the wounded are getting medical attention. There is nothing more despicable than the hatred these people are spreading towards our troops. One of my personal heroes from the war in Iraq is the author of “Back in Action”, Captain David Rozelle, who got his prosthetic limb and physical therapy at Walter Reed. He goes back to Walter Reed regularly to help other amputees get through their rehabilitation and realize they can still lead full lives. Well…at least he was doing that while he was training for his PT test to reinstate his “active duty” status. Captain Rozelle loved fighting terrorist scumbags so much, he’s the first amputee to have returned to lead more soldiers in the fight; he went back to Iraq!

    So I think it’s interesting that a pansy who doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about says the “war is a waste” and someone like Rozelle who lost his foot and part of his leg below the knee in an IED explosion, doesn’t feel that way and is so dedicated to the military, his men, the president and the mission, that he went through all kinds of painful rehabilitation to return to the battle.

    Let’s think about it together for a minute. Who knows more about it…someone who’s been there on the ground fighting, or an armchair quarterback pansy leftist like you?

    The commie idiots have been “protesting” Walter Reed Hospital since March on a weekly basis.

    They chant things like “Bush kills American soldiers” when families are going to visit their wounded loved ones at the hospital. Usually these visits are on Friday nights–and that’s when these idiots are standing out there–sometimes with caskets as props.

    A freeper from the DC Chapter said-”[The anti-war protesters] should not be demonstrating at a hospital. A hospital is not a suitable location for an anti-war demonstration,”and “I believe they are tormenting our wounded soldiers and they should just leave them alone.”

    Boy I’m starting to really hate leftists and what they’re doing to our soldiers. They’re not physically spitting on them, but they might as well be spitting on them and their families. What a horrible thing to do–harrass our soldiers when they’re trying to heal and convalesce. Do any of you realize how far you’re distancing yourselves from the rest of the nation with this kind of hatred towards our president and their mission in Iraq, the very mission they’ve sacrificed for? Which, incidentally, leaves us to sleep safe in our beds at night?

    I wish leftists weren’t allowed to talk this way. Loose ships sink ships.

  43. Mike says:

    What’s the difference between Janet Reno and Cindy Sheehan? Janet is prettier and more feminine. Wow, this woman is positively hideous and dumb as a rock.

    Mike
    Fair & Balanced

  44. Me says:

    “I wish leftists weren’t allowed to talk this way.”

    Buddy… there’s something called the first amendment that gives them the right. And the Constitution is way more important than your stupid opinion.

  45. Cao says:

    You’re hilarious. What you’re missing about the Cindy Sheehan thing is–she’s talking about the President being a terrorist and basically the destruction of the US as we know it. That’s quite a bit more than “exercising free speech” that doesn’t hurt anything. Her version of “free speech” is this:

    She called Bush a “lying *******” and a “filth-spewer and warmonger.”[1] Then she outlined her plans for their meeting:

    But I don’t care, I’m goin’. And I’m gonna tell them, “You get that evil maniac out here, cuz a Gold Star Mother, somebody who’s blood is on his hands, has some questions for him.”

    And I’m gonna say, “OK, listen here, George. #1, you quit, and I demand, every time you get out there and say you’re going to continue the killing in Iraq to honor the fallen heroes by continuing the mission; you say, ‘except Casey Sheehan.’”

    “And you say ‘except for all the members of Goldstar Families for Peace’ cuz we think not one drop of blood should be spilled in our families’ names. You quit doing that. You don’t have my permission.”

    And I’m gonna say, “And you tell me, what the noble cause is that my son died for.” And if he even starts to say ‘freedom and democracy’ I’m gonna say, bullshit.

    You tell me the truth. You tell me that my son died for oil. You tell me that my son died to make your friends rich. You tell me my son died to spread the cancer of pax Americana, imperialism in the Middle East. You tell me that, you don’t tell me my son died for ‘freedom and democracy.’

    Cuz, we’re not freer. You’re taking away our freedoms. The Iraqi people aren’t freer, they’re much worse off than before you meddled in their country….

    And if you think I won’t say bullshit to the President, I say move on, cuz I’ll say what’s on my mind.

    This hardly leaves much room for diplomacy. Sheehan would use her meeting with the President to subject him to a profanity-filled tirade. And you consider that filth directed at the president “free speech”?

    From the beginning of her campaign she has been lying through her teeth about America’s war to liberate Iraq, about America’s relation to Saddam (which has never been that of puppet-master and controller as she maintains), and about the commander-in-chief of America’s troops (who did not fabricate intelligence information to justify a “criminal war” as she and her manipulators claim).. Cindy Sheehan is the most prominent symbol and chief mouthpiece of a psychological warfare campaign against her own country in time of war that can only benefit its enemies on the field of battle. It is one thing to criticize a war policy. It is quite another to accuse your own country of creating the monster it went to war to remove and fabricating intelligence information to send American youth into battle to die for a lie — which is what she has done. She has made herself a willing tool of anti-American forces in this country that want America to lose the war in Iraq and the war on terror generally. She is promoting a cause — immediate withdrawal from Iraq — that would lead to a bloodbath in the region and in the United States.

    Examine her arguments. They’re not based on anything even remotely reasonable.

    But the issue is not whether Cindy Sheehan has the right to speak but rather: 1) Whether what she says warrants the attention of anyone whose IQ is above a pulse rate; and 2) Whether her diatribes constitute an attack on her own country and community in a time of war. Because Cindy Sheehan is a symbolic figure and appears to represent many million Americans on the left, moreover, these are not just questions about an individual.

    She obviously hasn’t read the National Security Strategy of the United States (2002) White Paper, which explains in detail and quite clearly the rationale for a war with Iraq, or Bush’s two State of the Union Addresses dealing with the Iraq threat, or his speech to the UN General Assembly of September 12, 2002 explaining why that body had to deal with Iraq and if it didn’t the United States would, or the President’s request to Congress for an authorization for the use of force against Iraq, which was passed by majorities on both sides of the aisle and in both chambers, or even the Joint Resolution by Congress which authorized the use of military force in Iraq. Come now, let’s hear how Cindy Sheehan addresses those arguments, instead of pretending that they don’t exist.

    And one more thing; The Left is not totalitarian by accident; totalitarianism is its life force. Without its totalitarian feature, it would not exist. The purpose of the Left is, to build a new and perfect world, which means that this present existence must be destroyed, so that the slate can be wiped clean to start building the earthly paradise it dreams of. The objective for education for leftists, therefore, is indoctrination. They have appointed themselves as social redeemers and see their duty as building revolutionaries.

    The left quite simply does not want the other side of the story told, since it would interrupt the path toward the utopian world it is building.

    It is for that reason that I wish we still considered communists the enemy instead of allowing them all of this press time (without even identifying them as leftist!). The problem is; the majority of the press is on the leftist side. That’s why there’s been a virtual explosion of conservative voices in the blogosphere and why you people object to strenuously to it. Seems to me as though these leftist diatribes are getting less traction rather than the desired result which is why you people are frothing at the mouth and virtually rabid over it!

    bwahahahahahah!

    [1]“Cindy Sheehan at the Veterans for Peace National Convention,” Bellaciao.org, August 7, 2005. Also posted on Democratic Underground, August 7, 2005.

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