Never before seen 9/11 footage of the 2nd plane crashing.

Referred to by William Teach at Pirate’s Cove; “A Truther Quits”, video referred to by Screw Loose Change.

Be careful, this is terribly disturbing as you watch the jumpers and debris falling.

From Screw Loose Change:

It’s about 13 minutes long and appears to start around 8:56 AM on 9-11. The cameraman is standing between the Post Office and WTC 7 about midway through the footage when Flight 175 impacts the South Tower. Unfortunately because of the location they do not get any footage of the plane or the fireball, but they do get the tremendous noise and the sound of large chunks of debris falling around them, which is obviously quite frightening.

Because of the proximity of the camera you really get a feel for how fast those bodies were falling.

Lots of profanity, appropriate but maybe not safe for work. Some of the kooks seem to see something in the North Tower fire just before the plane hits; another points out the rather ironic “Manhattan Demolition” garbage truck that appears at one point.

Alan Dershowitz has an article at Frontpage entitled “Ahmadinejad’s Holocaust Myths”, which details the Mufti of Jeruselum’s support of Hitler, and reveals something that someone in my comments section flatly denied:

It is fair to conclude that the official leader of the Muslims in Palestine, Haj Amin al-Husseini, was a full fledged Nazi war criminal and he was so declared at Nuremberg and sought by Yugoslavia as a war criminal after the war. He escaped to Egypt where he was given asylum and helped to organize many former Nazis and Nazi sympathizers against Israel.

Yes, it was called the Odessa Network.

It is also fair to say that Husseini’s pro-Nazi sympathies and support were widespread among his Palestinian followers, who regarded him as a hero even after the war and the disclosure of his role in Nazi atrocities. According to his biographer,

“Haj Amin’s popularity among the Palestinian Arabs and within the Arab states actually increased more than ever during his period with the Nazis… [because] large parts of the Arab world shared this sympathy with Nazi Germany during the Second World War.”

So…Ahmadinejad’s Goebbel-like propaganda campaign of deception and misinformation has hit critical mass; because in his Columbia University talk he flatly denied any corrolation or connection between the Palestinians and the Nazis.

“…[G]iven this historical event [the Holocaust], if it is a reality, we need to question whether the Palestinian people should be paying for it… “The Palestinian people didn’t commit any crime. They had no role to play in World War II.”

But this falls in line with what the Koran says about killing the infidel: Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. - 2:191

Husseini incited his pro-Nazi followers with the words “Arise, o sons of Arabia. Fight for your sacred rights. Slaughter Jews wherever you find them. Their spilled blood pleases Allah, our history and religion. That will save our honor.” In 1944, a German-Arab commando unit, under Husseini’s command, parachuted into Palestine and poisoned Tel Aviv’s wells.

A brief clip from the movie “Obsession” further punctuates the point.

by Thomas D. Segel - The Conservative Voice - September 16, 2007

A commentary of United States Marines

Harlingen, Texas, September 15, 2007 – They are mostly old now and many are long retired. Still, these Marines, these graying alumni of the warrior band who were called “Teufel Hunden” or Devil Dogs by their World War I German enemies, remain protective toward both Country and Corps.

They also keep a watchful eye on the Young Lions now wearing the uniform who are waging heroic warfare against a fanatical enemy. These veterans are very up front with how they view the actions of our national leadership, the media and the anti war movement. The MoveOn.org ad calling General David Petraeus “General Betray Us” that was reportedly given a very favorable discount by the New York Times, has generated rush of negative comments.

Most former Marines think the media is completely anti war - anti military and do not accept either print or electronic accounts as truthful reporting. Many of them rely on email communications from Iraq and Afghanistan to assess how the conflict is progressing. Emailed reports from Marines in Iraq tell their retired brothers and sisters at home more about the war than is ever presented by the media. Those now in the war zone say the death toll of terrorists is supposedly between 45 and 50 thousand. This is why, they say, our troops are seeing few armed attacks and more of the IED (Improvised Explosive Devices) and suicide bomber attacks.

Our Marines report Iraq is a mixed bag with some Iraqi troops fighting well. Most of the Iraqi Army is thought to be all right if they have American support, and some still not worth being called military units. Marines say the Kurds are very pro-American and fearless fighters. There is more and better intelligence because everyone is sick of insurgent attacks on civilians.

They also are stunned and dismayed by what they see in the American news media. Marines and most of the armed forces in Iraq see the media as being against them. Reporters are despised and distrusted. Those few who are embedded in units are neither trusted nor respected.

Another Graying Devil Dog Still Growling

Fahim wrote his post about 9/11, and I have to admit feeling sheephish after reading his bit about Massoud.

Bin Laden knew that as long as Massoud, the Commander of the Northern Alliance lived, his efforts in Afghanistan and elsewhere against worldwide Islamanazi terrorism would not be successful; that’s why Bin Laden had his minions murder Commander Massoud….two days before September 11, 2001.

Massoud’s last day

Massoud talking about the future

At some point I would like to get a translation of this last video.

I have seen some translations of Massoud’s speeches, it is no wonder that Bin Laden wanted him dead.

The biggest failure is that Massoud lives on in the hearts of Afghanistani’s still, his words still live, his fight against extremism still exists. Massoud’s dream for Afghanistan is not dead.

I am just very disappointed in the American government that they would let down the Northern Alliance who were our former allies, and turn our backs on them while trying to hold hands with the snake; the enemy; the ethnic Pashtuns like Karzai who are the Taliban.

People are spitting on the memory of Massoud and the Northern Alliance commanders by calling him/them (a) warlord/s and claiming he/they murder(ed) innocent women and children or civilians. Those are similar to the propaganda efforts against the US military claiming the same thing when both of their intentions are honorable, right and good.

Massoud’s memory still holds up; the Afghanistanis still post pictures of him as their hero all across Afghanistan. So as much as people try to revise history, their hero remains; his memory remains; his dream is still alive.

When I drew Kevin’s name for this piece last year, I was immediately thrown into a mixed bag of emotion. My older son is almost Kevin’s same age, and I began to contemplate what his family must still be going through, having lost their son in the horrible events of 9/11. My son spent two three years in Iraq; but at least I was prepared for a loss, should it happen. My heart goes out to the Marlo family, and I say a little prayer for them all, including his former girlfriend and hope she’s been able to go on with her life.

Kevin D. Marlo was just 28 years old when he died in the World Trade Center in New York on 9/11. He was a resident of Manhattan, grew up in West Chester and graduated from Henderson High School–a very handsome single young man, with a bright future ahead of him.

Although he was an Equity trader for the investment bank Sandler O’Neill, and worked on the 104th floor, of the South Tower, he was also an aspiring actor and model.

Just before 9/11, on 9/5, he came back from a shoot of Elimidate Deluxe. That show was reminiscent of the old Dating Game and his part was filmed at a Colorado dude ranch. The show gives a male or female contestant a choice of four potential dates, all the while trotting the globe. It was his big break: Playing the object of desire for four young women on reality TV.

When he returned Sept. 5 from the shoot at a Colorado dude ranch, he had been sworn to secrecy and wouldn’t name his pick. But he told his father, Dennis, that when he watched the episode, “you’ll just know by me” which woman would be the one.

With Kevin now a victim of the Sept. 11 attacks, his father Dennis Marlo will not be seeing his son on television. The WB network that filmed it decided not to show his episode of Elimidate Deluxe but instead gave a tape of this show to his family.

“They were trying to set up something where they take the city slicker . . . out to a dude ranch,” Dennis Marlo said.

Growing up in West Chester, Kevin hardly was a city boy, but he quickly became one during internships with Sandler O’Neill, which were followed by a full-time position. He wasn’t sure he wanted to spend his career in business, but he knew he wanted to live in New York - and the closer to the footlights, the better.

Kevin had not been drawn to the stage in high school or college. But once in New York, his father said, “he started to do some modeling. He did some shoots. . . . He was taking voice lessons and diction lessons.”

He made a cameo appearance as an audience member of The Tonight Show With Jay Leno - “He was on for quite a few minutes there,” Dennis Marlo said - and he got a small role in a Woody Allen movie. Which one, his father could not recall. The part of a young guy in a bar was small enough that Kevin had to point himself out to family members - but big enough to encourage him to keep chasing the big break.

So, even though his girlfriend wasn’t enthusiastic about Elimidate Deluxe, he went after it.

“He did all the things he wanted to,” his father said. “He didn’t hold back.”

When he was a teenager, Kevin D. Marlo and some of his friends tried to remove a television set from a Kmart in Pennsylvania without paying for it. That was a mistake, he discovered when the police and his mother got involved. “I told the officer to fine him the maximum so he would learn a lesson,” said his mother, Barbara Meyer. And it seemed to work; he never tried to take another TV.

But he remained attracted to the small screen, and the big one. Even as an associate director of equity sales and trading at Sandler O’Neill, which he joined straight out of the University of Pittsburgh, Mr. Marlo, 28, took acting lessons. He was filmed on “The Tonight Show” and appeared as an extra in Woody Allen’s movie “Celebrity,” said his father, Dennis Marlo. Last September, he finished shooting an episode for a dating show that included scenes outside his office at the World Trade Center.

Still, he was not acting when he told his mother, who was embarrassed to call him at the office, that she was more important than his job. Or when he encouraged his older sister, Christine, to finish college. Or when he formed the knot of friends that stayed with him for years. “He was such a good person, and he would do anything for people he loved,” said his girlfriend, Cindy Schwartz. She once told him over the phone that she wasn’t feeling well, and he turned up at her door with an assortment of medicines. It was 3 a.m.
Profile published in THE NEW YORK TIMES on July 28, 2002.

After Dennis Marlo lost his 28-year-old son, Kevin Marlo, in the World Trade Center attacks, he gathered with a group of Kevin’s friends. For three hours, they laughed, cried and told soul-soothing “Kevin stories.” “I needed it. I needed to hear the funny stuff too,” said Dennis Marlo of Malvern, Pa. “For someone who was just 28, he lived a full life. He didn’t hold back. I have such a deep respect for him.” Kevin Marlo lived in Manhattan and worked on the 104th floor of the World Trade Center as an associate director in equity sales and trading for Sandler O’Neill & Partners. But his heart was also in acting and he’d managed cameo appearances in a Woody Allen movie and on the Jay Leno Show. A week before he died, he finished filming a “reality-based” show for the WB Network in Colorado, a show his father said was a take-off on the dating game. The network is making a tape for the family and isn’t likely to air the episode, Dennis Marlo said.
Profile courtesy of THE CHICAGO TRIBUNE.

Kevin Marlo
The Marlo Family has established a scholarship fund in Kevin’s name:

* Kevin Marlo Memorial Scholarship Fund
c/o Harcum College
750 Montgomery Avenue
Bryn Mawr, PA 19010

In addition, memorial contributions may also be made to:

* Sts. Philip and James Church
723 East Lincoln Highway
Exton, PA 19341

* The American Red Cross - Sept. 11 Fund
c/o Sovereign Bank
P.O. Box 12646
Reading, PA 19612

Matching funds contributed by Sovereign Bank

You can take a look at the page that Sandler O’Neill & Partners put up for all of their colleagues who perished on that fateful day here.

Kevin D. Marlo Golf Classic

The 7th Annual Kevin D. Marlo Golf Classic was held this year on August 7th at the Llanerch Country Club in Havertown, PA.

About the Tournament

On September 11, 2001 Kevin D. Marlo tragically perished in the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. As an Associate Director for Sandler O’Neill Partners, Kevin was working on the 104th floor of the South Tower that day. Though pursuing a career in investment banking, Kevin’s potential and interests reached much further: he was also an accomplished athlete as well as an aspiring actor who had begun to realize his ambitions. Kevin was encouraged in this by his family: Dennis, Karen and Christine Marlo. His father, Dennis, serves as Chairman of the Harcum Board of Trustees, and his sister Christine, is a 2000 Harcum graduate and member of the National Alumni Board.

The Kevin D. Marlo Classic golf tournament honors Kevin’s memory and supports scholarships for Harcum students in allied health science fields. These scholarships are granted to students who have demonstrated academic achievement and a dedication to community service through participation in charitable and professional activities - values that Kevin himself demonstrated through his own commitments.

Do your remember your first car? What about your first date? How about your first “sock-hop”?

Uh huh — just as I thought — it brought a smile to your face and many memories, both good and bad, didn’t it?

I know this isn’t the norm for this Blog and Cao will probably wanna shoot me for it — but a friend sent me a great video today about the cars; great music and fun times many of us had during the 1960’s and I wanted to share some Nostalgia with everyone.

I grew up during that era with such great performers as Jerry Lee Lewis - The Big Bopper - Bill Haley & The Comets - The Platters - Buddy Holly - The Everly Brothers - Ricky Nelson - Paul Anka - The Fleetwoods - Bobby Darin - Frankie Avalon - The Beach Boys and 100’s of others.

What about all of those Friday and Saturday nights when you went “cruising” down the “Main Drag” with your High School Sweetheart sitting beside you — only to have someone pull up at the next light and challenge you to a race — Title For Title ?

Then, there were those long week-ends you just wanted to wax your car under the cool shade of the trees in the park or attend a local Custom Hot Rod Show

And now — here’s the video — turn up the volume and enjoy your trip down Memory Lane…

Those Oldies But Goodies That Are Long Gone

When Adolf Hitler bought Eva Braun a movie camera, to film the people and parties which occurred at their Bavarian retreat, the technology … to include synchronized sound had not yet been developed.

Cutting edge lip reading software along with a deaf lip reading expert and an expert at dubbing films- together enabled German experts to re-voice these films and provide us with a chilling insight into Hitlers private world.

Also, there was a row on the internet about the 1938 Better Homes and Garden Issue which showed pictures of “Hitler’s Mountain Home”. A few of those pages are available for viewing here and here.

The flap was over copyright issues, apparently, because it hasn’t quite been 70 years since it was published. But Homes and Gardens doesn’t have a copyright on these photos.

The story of Hitler is so creepy and fantastic considering the horrors of Nazi Germany, but it’s also instructive. And since leftists of today are following in their footsteps, (encouraging gang members to threaten conservatives in the streets) it’s all the more relevant to be thinking about how Hitler and his henchman could so calmly sit and have tea whilst people were dying horrible deaths in the concentration camps.

Update: A few observations.

In the film, there is a snippet about Hitler and his chauffeurs. In one clip, he laments missing his trusty chauffeur…and how he ‘drove the cars with such care’, or something to that effect.

Hitler was not only a homosexual, which is dodged in the film, he was a vegan who didn’t think very much of people who eat meat. He didn’t smoke, and so much of the leftist ideology is sitting out there in plain view when watching this, it’s absolutely fascinating but at the same time turns my stomach. To tout the rhetoric that homosexuals were sent to the concentration camps is more sleight of hand and propaganda. There were no homosexuals who were gassed in the concentration camps. Only 1% of homosexuals were in the camps-versus 85% of the Jewish population. Search Mein Kempf for Hitler’s hatred of homosexuals. It doesn’t exist.

When they talk about the Nazis meeting in the beer hall, they are not referring to the entire story. The favorite meeting place of the SA was a “gay” bar in Munich called the Bratwurstgloeckl where Roehm kept a reserved table (Hohne:82). This was the same tavern where some of the early meetings of the Nazi Party had been held (Rector:69). At the Bratwurstgloeckl, Roehm and associates — Edmund Heines, Karl Ernst, Ernst’s partner Captain [Paul] Rohrbein, Captain Petersdorf, Count Ernst Helldorf — would meet to plan and strategize. These were the men who orchestrated the Nazi campaign of intimidation and terror. All of them were homosexual (Heiden, 1944:371).(Pink Swastika, p. 91.)

Hitler’s strange relationship with Eva Braun and is discussed in the film as though he was trying to appeal to German women as a single man. But facts indicate otherwise; he was a deviant beyond the imagination. Hitler’s homosexuality, as pointed out in the Pink Swastika, has been demonstrated beyond question by German historian Lothar Machtan’s massively researched book, “The Hidden Hitler“.

Exaggerated Claims of Violence
The Vietnam War was worse than what followed-BY JOHN KERRY *(probably his public relations arm while he’s parasailing somewhere)-Saturday, August 4, 2007 12:01 a.m. EDT

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I haven’t been on point with this I haven’t written about Kerry releasing his records for a while–which by the way, he hasn’t done completely YET, even though he’s had a lot of offers from people who would be more than willing to help him fill out his 180 the right way - and release the records to the public rather than his biographer at the Boston Globe.

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James Taranto misinterpreted my words and misreads history (” ‘It Didn’t Happen,‘ ” July 26). I know the tragedy that followed a tragic war. John McCain and I led the effort to locate American POWs and ultimately normalize relations with Vietnam. I traveled to Cambodia to help create a genocide tribunal to bring to justice the butchers of the killing fields.

Nobody’s misinterpreting anything. Did we misinterpret you when you said they “at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country”?

Sorry bub, why should we believe anything you and Jane Fonda have to say? You supposedly also cared for the Vietnam POWs that were last seen alive; instead, you helped to bury any hope of their families finding out what happened to them or even recovering their remains. So that your cousin C. Stewart Forbes, chief executive for Colliers International, could broker a $905 million deal to develop a deep-sea port at Vung Tau. Convenient that all of this led the way to normalizing trade relations with Vietnam. Nice one, Johnny old boy.

I thought it was our soldiers who were the ‘butchers’ in the killing fields, according to your Winter Soldier “Investigation”.

From Vietnam Vet at Free Republic:

The genocide committed by North Vietnam on the South was carried out quietly and bureaucratically and resulted in the deaths of more than a million. After the fall of Saigon “politically unreliable” subjects were arrested at their homes or scooped up off the street. These included former members of the Viet Cong—the North’s partisan allies. They were imprisoned where many of them died. Those who chose to leave the country could legally do so by paying a $10,000 fee per head to the communist government and abandoning all their property. Tens of thousands died in boats on the high seas. Others died of disease and starvation hiding in the jungles along the Vietnamese-Cambodian border. The situation became so horrid that folksinger and peace activist Joan Baez—along with Cesar Chavez, Daniel Berrigan, I.F. Stone and others—ran full-page open letters in the New York Times imploring the Socialist Republic of Vietnam to show some mercy:

“We appeal to you to end the imprisonment and torture—to allow an international team of neutral observers to inspect your prisons and reeducation centers.”

Well, at least some people have a conscience. But you can leave John Kerry off of any list of leftists ‘with a conscience’.

John Kerry, since his youth, has served as a loyal steward of the goals of North Vietnam at the expense of American lives, non-communist Asian lives and U.S. interests. From his lying Senate testimony to his deplorable conduct on the Senate committee that investigated POW/MIA issues, Kerry has been the handmaiden of this brutal regime.

When John Kerry’s Courage went MIA

But what did not happen was the region-wide war or immediate chaos predicted by many who believed we had to maintain our massive military presence in Vietnam. A brutal dictatorship consolidated power in Vietnam, the region’s refugee crisis worsened, and two years after we left Vietnam, Cambodia’s Khmer Rouge launched a genocide.

Right. And I doubt that would have happened had we been allowed to win the war, as we were doing. But that’s something you and your communist buddies didn’t want to see…even George Mcgovern admitted that winning the war in Vietnam was not what he wanted.

Mr. Taranto mistakenly views the violence after 1973 as a direct result of our withdrawal. In fact, the violence arose from the conditions that led us to withdraw: a Vietnamese civil war we couldn’t stop supported by a Cambodian insurgency we couldn’t bomb into submission. It’s horrifying that so many South Vietnamese suffered. But, even accepting Mr. Taranto’s estimate of 165,000 Vietnamese deaths–double that of most academic sources–this is a significant decrease from the preceding eight years when 450,000 civilians and 1.1 million soldiers were killed.

No one is mistaken but you, Mr. I-have-a-man-servant. People who know what it’s like to live under a communist regime - will fight it. People who haven’t been fooled by elitists into thinking that it’s the only solution-will fight it.

The Viet Cong were soundly defeated during the Tet Offensive. It’s widely known by military historians that the VC expected Vietnamese peasants to rise up and join the Communists which, of course, never happened. The VC and North Vietnamese forces, therefore, were decimated; it took, literally, years for them to rebuild their strength. This, despite the likes of Walter Cronkite erroneously, and some would say deliberately, reporting the exact opposite.

We should not repeat the mistakes of Vietnam in Iraq, but let’s have an honest debate rather than a hysterical one. The agony of exiting a quagmire is that there are few certainties and no good options. That choice was created not by the advocates for changing course, but by the architects of a disastrous war.

Um…John - we can start by not listening to the democrats who spit on our military, spit on our right to exist as a democracy and are trying to turn us into a socialist country - the same kind of socialism that is in the Socialist Republic of Vietnam-which any regular citizen should be mortified by…any war that’s waged against a communist regime to a communist is ‘disastrous’. That’s why people marched in support of Saddam Hussein-And that’s why we shouldn’t be listening to you on Iraq, Mr. Kerry. And that’s why I’m astonished how in the hell you got re-elected.

Kerry only belittles himself by describing Taranto’s comment ‘The outcome of that war was a defeat for America and a humanitarian disaster for the people of South Vietnam and Cambodia’ as ‘hysterical’.

Here is one of the many closeups of Hitler and Röhm from the Nazi propaganda film, Der Sieg des Glaubens -aka-Victory of Faith, which shows a Hitler not quite at the pinnacle of power-as in the subsequent film, Triumph des Willens aka Triumph of the Will.

Keith Ellison’s recent remarks were waaaayyy off the mark, obviously. But looking at it more closely, you can see how far leftists are willing to go to obfuscate the truth.¹ The comparison Ellison made in front of a group of atheists was that the current administration reminded him of the burning of the Reichstag (German Parliament building).

“It’s almost like the Reichstag fire, kind of reminds me of that,” Ellison told the group, according to The Minneapolis Star Tribune. “After the Reichstag was burned, they blamed the Communists for it and it put the leader of that country [Hitler] in a position where he could basically have authority to do whatever he wanted.”²

This is similar to the 9/11 Truther rhetoric that 9/11 was an inside job. Or blaming two white guys for the Oklahoma City bombing. In reality, that is hardly the case. Bush hasn’t done anything outside of the law the way Hitler did…Hitler, in fact, declared martial law, and on the night of the long knives, murdered all of his political opponents. What I see is leftists advocating the deaths and imprisonment of their opponents, not the other way around.

Van Helsing at Moonbattery.com: The face of the “peace” movement, liberal icon Cindy Sheehan:

I have a dream of the detention centers that George [Bush] has built and filled being instead filled with Orange Clad neo-cons and neo-connettes.

Or this example pointed out at Sweetness and Light: GOP Walks Out After Vote Stolen In The House “Democrats gaveled the vote shut, 214 to 214, and declared that they had won. But the public tally showed that the Republicans had won, 215 to 213, just as the vote was declared for the Democrats. The official final tally was 216 to 212 in the Democrats’ favor.”

Ahh but who cares about ‘rules’, anyway. Just like the Nazis; they’re making up their own rules.

Also from Sweetness and Light-Court: “Freezer” Jefferson Raid Unconstitutional and concludes:

So it turns out that some people are above the law after all. (Of course this only applies to Democrats.) Meanwhile, the Democrats continue with their relentless witch-hunts against the Bush administration without let or hindrance.

And this from a lefty blogger at the American Prospect from the Yearly Kos Convention (Hat tip Michelle Malkin):

As the Military and Progressives panel came to an end, a young man in uniform stood up to argue that the surge was working, and cutting down on Iraqi casualties. The moderator largely freaked out. When other members of the panel tried to answer his question, he demanded they “stand down.” He demanded the questioner give his name, the name of his commander, and the name of his unit. And then he closed the panel, no answer offered or allowed, and stalked off the stage,

Wes Clark took the mic and tried to explain what had just occurred: The argument appears to be that you’re not allowed to participate in politics while wearing a uniform, or at least that you shouldn’t, and that the questioner was engaging in a sort of moral blackmail, not to mention a violation of the rules, by doing so.Knowing fairly little about the army, I can’t speak to any of that. But it was an uncomfortable few moments, and seemed fairly contrary to the spirit of the panel to roar down the member of the military who tried to speak with a contrary voice.

But anti-war demonstrators are appearing in uniform - even improperly worn uniforms - like with the wrong covers and with watches on, etc.. When I’ve asked for name rank and serial number, they fade into the background, unable or unwilling to respond. How interesting…they flip to both sides, but what is important here is that they shut down any speech that doesn’t agree; squooshing it underneath their leftist jackboots.

One of Bill Clinton’s mentors was Carroll Quigley, who pointed out (Tragedy and Hope, 1966) that Captain Röhm and his homosexual cadre of Storm Troopers staged the burning of the Reichstag.³

Accordingly…a plot was worked out to burn the Reichstag building and blame the Communists. Most of the plotters were homosexuals…⁴

Now even though political gay activists get a hearing in the Whitehouse to support their cause, I sincerely doubt that a reasonable person would compare homosexuals with the blatantly Christian outlook of President Bush. Atheists, the politically ideology without God, and homosexual deviance seems to be very similar to the crazies who made up the Nazi party.

We DO know, though, is that just like under the Weimarer Republik aka Weimar Republic, American Republicans today have drifted away from their principles. They have moved so far leftward so they are practically unrecognizable. There is not a single candidate that I would support as a candidate for the Presidency under the Republican banner - it’s as though Republicans have completely trashed the platform of the party and have adopted the democrats’. The democrats’ have now drifted to the socialist/communist/marxist worldview, although they’re not selling it by its brand name yet.

Christianity, is the diametrically opposed ideology of Darwinian Evolutionary Socialism, and was something that Hitler sought to destroy because he saw it as an extension of Judaism. The only difference being - he had to be careful where he demonstrated his homosexuality and that of his inner circle-because even after the nazi subversion of the Christian churches took place, still, most of the German people identified themselves as Christians.

The persecution of the Jews, on the other hand, was solely based on race.

In his introduction to Mein Kampf or Kempf,⁵ Konrad Heiden confirms Hitler’s hatred for Christianity, saying that the ‘belief in human equality’ is a Jewish plot, made popular by the “Christian churches.”

Jimmy Carter shares Hitler’s hatred for the Jews… What do you know? It’s not only Carter who hates the jews, or the Islamofascists who are calling for their removal from Israel, it’s the communists and others which can be traced back all the way to Engels and Marx, who hated them, too.

1. (July 16, 2007) In Meeting With Atheists, Rep. Ellison Compares President Bush to Hitler, Fox News.[back]
2. (July 16, 2007) In Meeting With Atheists, Rep. Ellison Compares President Bush to Hitler, Fox News.[back]
3. Quigley, C. (1966) Tragedy and Hope, Macmillan Company, New York p. 437.[back]
4. Quigley, C. (1966) Tragedy and Hope, Macmillan Company, New York p. 437.[back]
5. Hitler, A. (1925). Mein Kampf (aka My Struggle). Written from the viewpoint of victimhood and hatred while he spent 9 months in prison for his part as a revolutionary agitator in the Beer Hall Putsch. The Beer Hall Putsch was the failed coup d’état that took place on November 8 and 9, 1923 when he and others unsuccessfully tried to gain power in Munich, Bavaria, and Germany. This book blames everyone else for his failures, the key being the races of people who stood in his way, so they had to be killed.[back]

Previously here.

This same subject is mentioned in WAR Crimes by Lt. Col. Robert “Buzz” Patterson, pp. 45:

Nowhere in our culture is the anti-American and antimilitary movement more unabashedly embraced than in the nation’s education system -universities, colleges, high schools, elementary levels, and yes, even preschools. Just as jihadists have successfully institutionalized their extreme Islamist and anti-Westernism doctrine in madrassas, so too have America’s academics seized the educational system as a platform for fomenting their radical ideologies.¹

Which is one reason why someone who’d watched what happened in Germany took note of the students at Columbia University rushing the Minutemen on stage and compared them to Hitler’s storm troopers.

Hilmar Von Campe: Well, I did see (the Columbia University Minuteman attack video) before. I did see the video about the event before. That was no surprise for me. We had, we called them “storm troopers”. Hitler had storm troopers who would shut up the opposition. And, that is what these people were trying to do, the same thing.

That’s what they think of our ‘free speech’, that’s why they also have the ‘fairness doctrine’.

This isn’t a recent development. Germany’s universities were among the first institutions to support Adolf Hitler’s policies in the 1930’s. In the face of the spreading Nazi aggression, England’s renowned debating society the Oxford Union resolved “not to defend King and country.” The inevitable result of academia’s short-sighted and misguided perspective was world war and the deaths of tens of millions.²

It makes you wonder when we have clear examples of the fallout of their ideology to look back to, why these people don’t connect the dots.

In this country, the campus unrest of the 60’s spurred the opposition to the Vietnam war and led to American withdrawal from Vietnam - the result of which was the deaths of 2.5 million people. Today, blind to the repeated lessons of history, educational institutions propound the message that America is imperialist, its leaders warmongers, and the U.S. military is evil.³

Not that they’d ever want to even learn from history; they’re too busy rewriting it.

A few more posts are here on the Nazi storm troopers theme. First here, then here, then here.

Here are a few interesting photographs (John Ray here and here) from some of the posters that were put up in nazi germany during the 30’s to promulgate Hitler’s political views. Notice the similarity to the leftists of today:

Translated, the poster reads: “The Marshall and the corporal fight alongside us for peace and equal rights”

Can you get a more Leftist slogan than that? “Peace and equal rights”? Modern-day Leftists sometimes try to dismiss Hitler’s socialism as something from his early days that he later outgrew. But when this poster was promulgated he was already Reichskanzler (Prime Minister) so it was far from early days. Once again we see what a barefaced lie it is when Leftists misrepresent Hitler as a Rightist. We can all have our own views about what Hitler actually believed but he campaigned and gained power as a democratic Leftist. The March 5, 1933 election was the last really democratic election prewar Germany had and, in it, Hitler’s appeal was Leftist.

It reads: “Mit Adolf Hitler “Ja” fuer Gleichberechtigung und Frieden” — which translates as “With Adolf Hitler “Yes” for equal rights and peace” — the same old standby slogans that the Left trot out to this day, of course.

The slogan in this photograph says something that you won’t believe unless you are aware of how readily all Leftists preach one thing and to one another. Because many people don’t even know that for much of the 30s Hitler was actually something of a peacenik. It reads “Mit Hitler gegen den Ruestungswahnsinn der Welt”. And what does that mean? It means “With Hitler against the armaments madness of the world”. “Ruestung” could more precisely be translated as “military preparations” but “armaments” is a bit more idiomatic in English.

And who is it exactly that wants us to disarm?

The Dutch Nazis were very much in cahoots with the German occupation authorities. In translation, it reads: “With Germany AGAINST capitalism”. So Nazism was Rightist? Only in the fevered imaginations of modern Leftists. There is more on the background of the Dutch poster here

Thanks to John Ray, once again.

Engels sees democrats as partners towards achieving Communism

ENGELS ADVOCATED NATIONALIZATION OF INDUSTRY AND EDUCATION AS STEPS TO COMMUNISM

Far from starting futile quarrels with the democrats, in the present circumstances, the Communists for the time being rather take the field as democrats themselves in all practical party matters. In all civilised countries, democracy has as its necessary consequence the political rule of the proletariat, and the political rule of the proletariat is the first condition for all communist measures. As long as democracy has not been achieved, thus long do Communists and democrats fight side by side, thus long are the interests of the democrats at the same time those of the Communists. Until that time, the differences between the two parties are of a purely theoretical nature and can perfectly well be debated on a theoretical level without common action being thereby in any way prejudiced. Indeed, understandings will be possible concerning many measures which are to be carried out in the interests of the previously oppressed classes immediately after democracy has been achieved, e.g. the running of large-scale industry and the railways by the state, the education of all children at state expense, etc.

Source

The first part in German:

Friedrich Engels, „Die Kommunisten und Karl Heinzen“, 1847

„Die Kommunisten, weit entfernt, unter den gegenwärtigen Verhältnissen mit den Demokraten nutzlose Streitfragen anzufangen, treten vielmehr für den Augenblick in allen praktischen Parteifragen selbst als Demokraten auf. (…) Solange die Demokratie noch nicht erkämpft ist, solange kämpfen Kommunisten und Demokraten also gemeinsam (…)“

MEW a.a.O. 4, 317.

And now John Ray concludes:

This passage is of course a classical formulation of the “fellow-traveller” doctrine. As we see repeatedly in his writing, Engels despised democracy but above he sees Communism as the ultimate endpoint of democracy so says that Communists and democrats should work together to achieve State control of industry and education as the final steps before Communism is achieved.

The State control of industry has fallen by the wayside in modern times but education still seems to be well on track.

Photo from Zombietime’s coverage of a Cindy Sheehan protest -entitled-The World Can’t Wait- courtesy of the Revolutionary Communist Party- from November, 2005.

1. Patterson, R. (Lt. Col., USAF, Ret.) (2007). WAR CRIMES: The Left’s Campaign to destroy our military and lose the war on terror. Crown Publishing, New York. pp. 45.[back]
2. Patterson, R. (Lt. Col., USAF, Ret.) (2007). WAR CRIMES: The Left’s Campaign to destroy our military and lose the war on terror. Crown Publishing, New York. pp. 45.[back]
3. Patterson, R. (Lt. Col., USAF, Ret.) (2007). WAR CRIMES: The Left’s Campaign to destroy our military and lose the war on terror. Crown Publishing, New York. pp. 45.[back]

All this stuff you’ve heard about America not wanting to fight, wanting to pull out of Iraq, is a lot of horse dung!

After a long debate, the Continental Congress finally reached a decision. They voted to declare independence from Britain on July 2, 1776. The next night, John Adams returned to his rooming house to write two of the most famous letters in American history by candlelight.

Addressing his wife Abigail, he noted the birth of a new nation.

Read John Adams’ Independence Day messages here
by Michael Medved at Townhall.

In a prior letter to (his wife) Abigail (in 1775), Adams went even further in emphasizing the association of patriotism and religiosity – a connection maintained with interruption from his time to our own. “Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but is Religion and Morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand,” he wrote. “A patriot must be a religious man.”

With his words in mind, it makes sense for so many churches to sponsor special July 4 th programs, and to emphasize the always appropriate messages of “God bless America” and “America, America, God shed his grace on thee.” The last verse of “The Star Spangled Banner” contains the lines – “And triumph we must/As our cause it is just/And this may our motto/”In God is our trust.”

May we observe our nation’s founding in the spirit of our founders – combining celebration with solemnity, and expressing our devotion to God and to country.

Also, Rick Moran is ‘liveblogging’ the Continental Congress! starting July 2nd, 1776, and he has a second post up from July 3, 1776. I enjoy Rick’s blog, particularly when it comes to historical remembrances such as Washington’s birthday, the 4th of July and other memorable dates throughout history; he reminds us of things we should more often remember.

Have a pleasant 4th of July, but while doing so, remember those who’ve stood and today are standing in harm’s way, who’ve sacrificed so much for the noble ideas of our predecessors that we celebrate today. God bless. Have a happy and safe 4th of July.

This interesting letter was found in the national archives in a collection called “The General’s papers”. It written in Lincoln’s own hand, on the War Department’s letterhead.

It demonstrates Lincoln’s optimism that the war could be concluded quickly, but it continued for over a year after this note was written.

The note from Lincoln to Maj. Gen. Henry Halleck was written on July 7, 1863, four days after the defeat of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee at Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, and three days after the city of Vicksburg on the Mississippi River fell to Union forces. Reuters

Some really beautiful and interesting pictures of the archeological excavation, here.

On 19 April 1775, at Lexington and Concord, American heroes fired the opening volley for American liberty. Our modern day counterparts to the heroes of yesteryear are those who bravely continue in that tradition now, shouldering the immense burden of American liberty on the warfront with Jihadistan.

Concord Hymn
Ralph Waldo Emerson

By the rude bridge that arched the flood,
Their flag to April’s breeze unfurled,
Here once the embattled farmers stood
And fired the shot heard round the world.

The foe long since in silence slept;
Alike the conqueror silent sleeps;
And Time the ruined bridge has swept
Down the dark stream which seaward creeps.

On this green bank, by this soft stream,
We set to-day a votive stone;
That memory may their deed redeem,
When, like our sires, are sons are gone.

Spirit, that made those heroes dare
To die and leave their children free,
Bid Time and Nature gently spare
The shaft we raise to them and thee.

On 18 april 1775, the military governor of Massachusetts, General Thomas Gage, dispatched a force from Boston to confiscate weapons stored in the village of Concord, and to capture Patriot rebels Samuel Adams and John Hancock at Lexington. Luckily, the Patriots anticipated that move.

In advance, Paul Revere had arranged for warning, though he was captured.

“Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!” —Patrick Henry

Patriot allies William Dawes and Samuel Prescott continued the midnight ride for 22 miles from Boston’s Old North Church to Concord and warned militiamen along the way.

As dawn arrived on 19 April, between 50 and 70 militiamen came to the town green at Lexington to confront the British column. When a few links away from the militia column, the British officer swung his sword, and said, “Lay down your arms, you damned rebels, or you are all dead men. Fire!” Several Patriots were killed and wounded, but none had been ordered to return fire.

However, when the British arrived at Concord’s Old North Bridge, American “Minutemen” fired the “shot heard round the world” as Emerson notes above.

That was the beginning of an eight-year struggle for American independence, a beginning we honor as Patriots Day.

From the Patriot Post.

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FRIDAY, APRIL 13, 2007

TO: ALL AMERICAN PATRIOTS WHO CARE ABOUT THE LIVING POWS STILL ALIVE IN VIETNAM AND LAOS

FR: FORMER CONGRESSMAN JOHN LEBOUTILLIER

RE: AN ENORMOUS CRIME

Indeed, the abandonment of 600 of our living American Prisoners-of-War in 1973 was - and still is - an enormous crime. And that is the title of the single best book - ever written - about the criminal behavior of our government beginning 35 years ago and continuing right up to the present.

On Memorial Day, AN ENORMOUS CRIME; The Definitive Account of American POWs Abandoned in Southeast Asia, written by Former Congressman Bill Hendon and Beth Stewart, will be published by St. Martin’s Press.

The first reviews - enclosed below - summarize this meticulously-researched book: From Publishers Weekly:

“Controversial former North Carolina Congressman Hendon and attorney Stewart make the case that the U.S. knowingly left hundreds of POWs in Vietnam and Laos in 1973, and that every presidential administration since then has covered it up.”

And from Kirkus Reviews:

“A sprawling indictment of eight U.S. administrations…a convincing, urgent argument.”

(Don’t know who wrote this part or who to give credit to here:)

I have been involved with this book since its inception; I have read every draft and am very familiar with the research done by Bill Hendon and Beth Stewart. The beauty of this book is that it is based totally on US Government documents. In fact, Hendon and Stewart spent years in the National Archives digging out previously-classified and never-before-published documents. So, when USG officials and former officials try to attack this book they are going to have a difficult time: the book isn’t Hendon and Stewart’s opinions; it is from the intelligence gathered through radio intercepts, satellite and aerial imagery, and thousands of reports from HUMINT sources (human intelligence) - and given to all our high-level officials from the Oval Office on down.

And they have all lied and covered-up the existence of our POWs to this day. They all knew that the USG knowingly left 600 POWs behind - and this crime has been systematically covered up ever since by officials from both parties in every administration.

• AN ENORMOUS CRIME is based on 66,000 pages of never-before-published USG intelligence reports.
• A companion web site will allow readers - and critics - to see all these documents and judge for themselves. Every intelligence report and government memorandum mentioned or discussed in the book will appear in its entirety on the web site for every reader to read and study - and decide for him/herself who is telling the truth about live POWs: the intelligence sources or those who have debunked the intelligence and covered up the existence of live pows through eight presidential administrations.
• This web site will also contain other information not contained in the book.

Here is what I am asking you to do:

1) Spread the word about this book to everyone you know who cares about our abandoned brothers;

2) Go to Amazon - here is the direct link –and preorder the book.

3) Pray - as a community of POW activists - for the successful return of all our POWs.

4) Start to regain our sense of life-and-death desperation and our fighting spirit - the spirit we POW/MIA activists used to have when we took on our corrupt and arrogant government officials in the past - liars like McCain, Kerry, Kissinger, George “Sit Down and Shut Up!” Bush and those DIA Debunkers - and get ready to make one last push to get our POWs home - alive - now - beginning on Memorial Day when this book comes out.

This book is NOT about crash site excavations, bones, or a couple of teeth-used-to-identify-an-eight-man- flight-crew!

AN ENORMOUS CRIME is about one thing - and one thing only: living US POWs still held against their will by the North Vietnamese and Pathet Lao - and covered-up by a corrupt government in Washington, DC.

In fact, the Pentagon is still receiving new, up-to-date, credible reports of sightings of US POWs this year! (Of course, they’re hiding those reports from the public.)

So we owe it to these brave American heroes to make one more concerted effort to get them home.

What can you do?

• Some people will call for War Crimes Trials for former and current US Government officials who abandoned our men and covered up their fate;
• Others will call for the impeachment and removal from the US Senate of John McCain and John Kerry;
• Some will agree with Hendon/Stewart’s suggestion to urge a Presidential-level delegation of all former Presidents and high-level officials to go to Hanoi and Vientiane and “stay there and negotiate until they get the POWs released.”
• Some will join the current effort to create a new US House Committee on POW/MIA Affairs. (Having served in the 1980’s on the earlier version of that committee - and seeing two more since then - I can assure you nothing any good will ever come from a Congressional Committee; the CIA/DIA infiltrates the staff and ‘rig’ the investigations. So we’d be better off channeling our energies elsewhere.)
• Some will want to return to the in-the-streets activism of the 1980’s and 1990’s - staging demonstrations aimed at making the media and the government pay attention to the Live POW issue.
• Others will get on their computers and spread the word through the blogosphere in an effort to - finally - get the truth about our living POWs out there with thousands of supporting documents to back us up.
• Some might write supportive letters-to-the-editors to their newspapers and magazines and urge them to cover the live POW issue - truthfully and fairly.
• Others will come up with other ideas and ways to get the Live POW issue back into our national consciousness.

Whatever you do, DO SOMETHING!

The POWs need our help - so it is up to us to do whatever we can do to help get this issue back on the front pages and back in the news.

Please help our brothers!

Sincerely,
Former Congressman John LeBoutillier

P.S. Please feel free to forward this email to any and everyone you know! Spread the word!

P.P.S. Here is the first news article about AN ENORMOUS CRIME:
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Publisher’s Weekly:

An Enormous Crime: The Definitive Account of American POWs Abandoned in Southeast Asia
Bill Hendon and Elizabeth Stewart. St. Martin’s/Dunne, $29.95 (640p) ISBN 978-0-312-37126-8

Controversial former North Carolina congressman Hendon and attorney Stewart make the case that the U.S. knowingly left hundreds of POWs in Vietnam and Laos in 1973, and that every presidential administration since then has covered it up. The main reason for the secrecy, say the authors, is the billions in war reparations demanded by the Vietnamese and promised by Henry Kissinger and Richard Nixon at the Paris Peace talks. Hendon and Stewart provide a mountain of evidence, mainly intelligence reports of live sightings of American prisoners in Vietnam and Laos that make for less-than-scintillating reading. But riveting sections describe Hendon’s crusade on this issue in the early 1980s, including two meetings with President Reagan, pleading his case that the government free the live POWs. Hendon and Stewart directly accuse a long list of government officials of the coverup. Among the most culpable: Kissinger, President George H.W. Bush, Senators John McCain and John Kerry, Gen. Colin Powell, former secretary of state George Schultz and former defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld. It’s a chore wading through the live-sighting reports and the massive, detailed endnotes, but the descriptions of Hendon’s unsuccessful personal mission provide an intriguing story—and carry the ring of truth. 36 b&w photos not seen by PW. (June 1)
Kirkus Reviews:

A sprawling indictment of eight U.S. administrations. The charge: sacrificing American war prisoners in the interest of focusing, as Bush aides have said, “not on Vietnam’s past but on its future.” Beginning in 1966, write former Rep. Hendon (R-NC) and attorney Stewart, GIs captured in South Vietnam were moved north along the Ho Chi Minh Trail and other routes. Cataloguing sightings with the diligence of Vincent Bugliosi—whose Reclaiming History (2007), on the JFK assassination, is something of a companion piece—Hendon and Stewart reckon that hundreds of POWs had crossed the Demilitarized Zone by the time of the Tet Offensive, their numbers swelled by pilots downed over North Vietnam. Many of these soldiers, Hendon and Stewart charge, were used as human shields against American bombing attacks on power plants, military headquarters and other strategically important venues. North Vietnam and its allies in Laos and Cambodia weren’t particularly forthcoming on all these things, but the U.S. played a dirty hand, too; by the authors’ account, the prisoners’ ultimate release was bound up in negotiations conducted by Henry Kissinger, “the surrogate president,” who reneged on promises of U.S. aid owing to supposed violations of previous accords, thus closing off a diplomatic channel for repatriation. Fast forward to 1987, when Ross Perot traveled to Vietnam and told the foreign minister, who insisted that there were no POWs there, “Don’t embarrass yourselves, I know too much.” Fruitful negotiations ensued, the authors report, only to be
brushed aside by the Reagan administration—even though, they claim, at least 100 U.S. prisoners were still alive in Vietnam. Hendon and Stewart, who appear nonpartisan in their disdain for governmental inaction and double-dealing, close by offering advice to President Bush to send an army of former presidents and their staffs to negotiate the release of the remaining captives. Much of the authors’ evidence is circumstantial, but there’s an awful lot of it. A convincing, urgent argument.

Today I am here in defense of the men and women whose names appear on the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Washington, D.C. that our patriots from Rolling Thunder, Move America Forward, Gathering of Eagles and others have joined together to defend from the communists who are protesting the war.

John McCain, John Kerry, and seven administrations (including this one) seem to have decided the ‘last seen alive’ personnel, the MIA and POWs, both military and civilian, just weren’t worth caring about. John Kerry and others, whose greed and financial interests in normalizing relations with Vietnam overrode justice for the families of POWs and MIAs from across the country, should be called to task for their behavior. We should never forget, and we should keep this issue in front of our elected representatives.

To: Senator Kerry

Date: 24 July 1992

Re: Scrubbing of our 133 Names and the Real Universe of Potential POWs

The figure of 133 individuals ‘recorded in captivity’ used by the Select Committee in the June 24th hearing was an attempt to define the outer limit of individuals who were not listed officially by the services as POWs at the time of Operation Homecoming, but might possibly have been taken captive at some point during the war. In retrospect, it appears that what would have been a more relevant number, and what our 133 figure was misinterpreted as meaning anyway, was the total number, whether carried officially as POWs or not, of Americans we thought could have been live POWs as of early 1973.

Quite honestly, some of the categories in our 133 list were irrelevant to the question of who could have been a live POW. For instance, many of the civilians we listed as recorded in captivity were known to have died, but because there is no formal mechanism, as there is for uniformed personnel, to declare them dead, they were carried as POWs on some DIA lists. Other MIA names were on our lists of POWs merely because their names were, for some unknown reason, on the same list as a list of unaccounted-for POWs given to the Vietnamese in April 1973. Another 51 military personnel were on our list of 133 based on a cursory review of an Air Force debriefing document. DIA’s recent analysis of these 51 names indicated that most were cases of mistaken identity, confused names, or prison system name inquires and not POWs seen in captivity as the Air Force document led us to believe.

Another error in our presentation was the claim that in the larger 244 figure both DIA and the Committee agree that 111 had died in captivity. In their analysis of our list of 244, however, DIA says they still carry 20 of our 111 who “died in captivity” as actually “last known alive” cases, although there is evidence of death in some of these cases.

DIA’s review of our list of 244 revealed that of the 244 names, 83 deserve “priority status” as they could potentially have been POWs at the time of Operation Homecoming, although the evidence available in 1973, including eyewitness US POW reports, indicated that many of these men had died in captivity prior to 1973. Of the subgroup of 83 names from our 244 which DIA agrees were likely to have been captured individuals, 40 have since been accounted for as dead based on remains returned, returnee debriefs, or having been determined to have died prior to 1973 based on in-country investigations (Listed below as Individuals in Priority Cases but known to have perished). This leaves us with 43 individuals from our 244 who DIA admits are still possible POW candidates. Those 43 names are attached at Tab A (listed below as 43 Potential Candidates for LIVE POWs). All of those 43 cases are among those which DIA claims are “priority” cases for investigation in Southeast Asia.

One of the 133 individuals (Elliot, Robert M.) who the Select Committee identified as captured based on “generally reliable intelligence,” was in fact only identified by DIA as a possible POW in April 1992 after a thorough review of this type of intelligence under prodding by our Committee. This case has been elevated to a high priority case by the JTFFA.

The Real Universe

The 43 names from our list of 244 that DIA accepts as possible POWs today is not the entire universe of potential candidates for live POWs, however. Because we were looking only for names that the military services did not formally consider POWs at the time of Operation Homecoming, we left out (1) the large group of POWs which the US already knew as of January 1973 had been captured, and (2) the group of individuals who were “last known alive”.

The two groups above (POW/Last Known Alive) are overlapping lists. Some individuals were last known alive but there was no evidence of capture. Others were last known to have been captured alive. What the Committee should be focused on as the “potential universe” is the number of individuals who were last know alive PLUS those who were known to have been captured, and whose remains have not been returned and whose fate has not been determined through field investigations. *(Also of interest is the total in both of the last known alive plus POW categories as of 1973, since it is impossible to determine with any precision the date of death of an individual based on returned remains).

By adding the distinct names of still unaccounted for individuals on the DIA “POW” and “Last Known Alive” lists plus a handful (6) of individuals who for some unknown reason are Vessey discrepancy cases but not “last known alive” or “POW” cases, we are left with a total of 128 names of individuals who we do not know for sure have died (although there is evidence to suggest that effect for many if not most of these cases).

The “Last Known Alive” cases are somewhat of a misnomer in many instances there is often significant evidence that the person was killed while being captured or shortly after the loss incident due to injuries sustained in the crash or loss incident. There are some cases however where the individual was known to be alive on the ground and was simply never located, seen, or heard of again. These cases run the gamut of loss circumstances with no two cases exactly alike.

The number 128, however, is only a current subset of what would have been the “universe” at the time of Operation Homecoming, before we began getting remains back and, in the late 1980’s, conducting in-country field investigations. The number of potential POW candidates as of Operation Homecoming would have contained far more names (perhaps 200-225), than the current number, although we have determined subsequently that many of these men died well before Operation Homecoming. For others, whose remains we received with little or no explanation of the date or circumstances of death, we have no way of knowing when they died.

Conclusion

The number of 128 as a universe for potential POW candidates is based on DIA’s own categories such as “POW”, “Last Known Alive”, or “Vessey Discrepancy Case”. This number is very close to what DIA told us was their potential POW universe during the closed “live sighting” briefing after our “numbers” hearing. While some of these individuals would reasonably be considered to have died (see some samples of Wick’s “Last Known Alive” case summaries), I think it makes for a realistic if somewhat conservative “universe”.

Of course, 128 is not the absolute maximum for the number of possible POWs. As joint field investigations and archival research have revealed, several (8-9) individuals never suspected to have been captured alive, now appear to have been captured and based on interviews, documents, and other investigative activities. (See Wick’s 7/22/92 memo at Tab C.) This means that there are likely to have been additional MIAs captured that DIA and the services were unaware of in 1973, and still are unaware of, although the number is not likely to be more than an additiona one or two dozen. These additional cases are likely to be discovered as field inversgiations continue over the next several years.

Interesting Statistics:

1) As of Operation Homecoming, DIA carried a total of 111 individuals as POWs. 42 of the 111 have not had their remains returned nor have they been officially determined to have died during the war although there is evidence of eath in many of the remaining cases.

2) Of the original 119 Vessey Discrepancy cases:
-22 have had their remains returned and identified
-35 have been determined to have died prior to 1973, but their remains have not been located
-62 remain as compelling discrepancy cases

From the 135 list

43 Potential Candidates for LIVE POWs

Adams, Samuel
Borah, Daniel Vernor Jr.*remains returned, highly questionable
Cichon, Walter Alan
Clarke, George William Jr.
Creed, Barton Sheldon
Cuthbert, Bradley Gene
Demmon, David Stanley
Dexter, Bennie Lee
Dunlop, Thomas Earl
Dusing, Charles Gale
Edismoe, Norman Edward*remains returned
*Elliot, Robert Malcolm
Entrican, Danny D.
Estocin, Michael John
Ferguson, Walter Jr. When we signed the peace agreement with the Provisional Revolutionary Government in May, 1973, instead of letting hundreds of our men go, some, like Ferguson, were declared dead/body not recovered. But two reports of live sightings of Ferguson keep hopes alive, even though a Senate Select Committee Report dated 1993 declared him dead/body not recovered
Finley, Dickie W.
Flynn, Sean Leslie son of Errol Flynn, Times reporter, killed by Khmer Rouge in Cambodia in 1971
Francisco, San Dewayne
Gerber, Daniel A., mennonite missionary
Greenleaf, Joseph G. determined KIA, body not recovered - highly questionable
Hall, Harley Hubert infamous blue angel, paraded through Hanoi, communists lied, interviewed by Soviet interrogators, analysis of the few bones recovered questionable, classified by Kerry’s committee as KIA, remains returned
Hestle, Roosevelt Jr. seven POWs last saw him alive, DOD denies
Lane, Charles Jr.
Luna, Carter Purvis
Mclean, James Henry
Mims, George I. Jr.
Mitchell, Archie Emerson - missionary
Moore, Thomas the Provisional Revolutionary Government (PRG) in 1973 said ‘died in captivity’, remains never returned
Morrison, Joseph C.
Niehouse, Daniel Lee - civilian, ‘died in captivity’ - according to the communists
Phillips, Robert Paul
Price, Bunyan Durant-POW under Khmer Rouge control
Pridemore, Dallas Reese status: “captured”
Reynolds, Terry L. civilian UPI reporter, captured and held in Cambodia with his Australian photographer, held in Sampan Loeu hamlet, about 40 kilometres south-east of Phnom Penh in 1972.
Rozo, James Milan survived into captivity, body not recovered, presumed dead
Schmidt, Walter R. Jr., not released, not on a list
Small, Burt Chauncey Jr. *received Green Beret after he got to Vietnam because of his age, U.S. government ‘classified’ most of his records, will release no information, Vietnamese claim no knowledge of him, presumed dead
Sparks, Donald L.
Stone, Dana freelance photojournalists, working for CBS, captured with Flynn, presumed dead, killed by Khmer Rouge in 1971 in Cambodia
Tromp, William Leslie
Vanbendegom, James Lee
Vietti, Eleanor A. civilian doctor who went there to help Vietnamese leprosy patients, Archie Mitchell & Daniel A. Gerber with her, Vietnamese government denies any knowledge of them

*New Case nominated for priority investigation and passed to the JTF-FA in May of 1992.

Individuals in Priority Cases but known to have perished

Disz, Ralph Campion
Blood, Henry F.